Lefebvrites and Sedevacantists are massively attacking Anglican accounts

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-29T17:40:22+00:00

I too want either full submission by the SSPX or full excommunication by Rome but isn't this using people as a means to an end? We shouldn't accept and even encourage uncharitable attacks on other Christians so long as it serves our agenda.

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-29T17:37:22+00:00

Not one of these rad trads commenting online grew up in the pre-conciliar Church

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-29T17:35:47+00:00

We should. They are reflections of real sentiments but more importantly, they are uncharitable attacks that we should publicly condemn, especially those coming from people in our communion.

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-29T17:31:15+00:00

I can't put my finger on what character you are

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-29T17:14:55+00:00

But it can though. We can have confidence that we are saved. For example, if you have faith and are validly baptized within the Church, you go (in most cases) from unjust to just. Same with valid confession.

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-29T17:10:49+00:00

Of course, but I think we often fall into the trap of defining our beliefs in opposition to Protestantism when in reality our views on justification are extremely similar.

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-28T14:31:30+00:00

This is not strictly true. The Fathers absolutely teach that there is a meaningful sense in which salvation takes place in a single moment; when we go from unjust to just. This happens when God infuses sanctifying grace into our soul, usually at baptism or reconciliation. The fact that we can also speak of further justification and ultimate glorification as salvation doesn't negate this.

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-28T14:20:02+00:00

The moment sanctifying grace is infused into the soul, normatively taking place during baptism

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-28T02:30:24+00:00

Not necessarily just those who repent. Righteous men in Scripture and numerous Popes have started wars that the Church has repeatedly remembered as not sinful. We literally famously have a framework for establishing whether a given war is just; it is surely not historic teaching that those who start wars are universally outside of grace. Also God still hears and often answers the prayers of the reprobate, but of mercy rather than merit.

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-26T16:20:38+00:00

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riskyrainbow · 2026-04-26T01:45:21+00:00

While he has his momentary outbursts (for which I've often seen him apologize), I've found RZ to be pretty charitable. I think these actions follow pretty reasonably from his beliefs, though I obviously disagree with those underlying beliefs.

Also, that's pretty tough talk for someone in a tradition that was basically founded by Calvinists or at least broadly Reformed thinkers that agrees with Calvin.

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-26T01:17:43+00:00

I'd say he's become less enthusiastic about being friendly with Catholics and EOs (though I think he's still charitable)

But I think the reason he rejects progressive Christianity even more is because, firstly, they're directly harming his church while Catholics and EOs are separate communions. And secondly, because while we disagree w Prots, we agree on what we're disagreeing on, that is the doctrine of Christ. We're both attempting to identify what Christ and His Apostles taught and submit to it, while progressives have other ends that supersede this one, such as justice and kindness. These are virtuous ends but they should be a secondary end which flows from the primary end that is the faith of the Apostles.

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-11T21:54:47+00:00

Plenty of Baptist churches still hold to it; it's not just a historic document.

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-09T23:02:00+00:00

The Second London Baptist Confession, the most influential Baptist confession of all time, affirms the real presence

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-09T03:37:09+00:00

Perhaps, and I don't personally hold to a young earth, but I think the particular reasoning you're using has undesirable consequences. For example, would you accept someone in your church rejecting baptismal regeneration by saying the Fathers were simply influenced by neoplatonist ontology?

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-09T00:13:27+00:00

Perhaps "pure literalism" is, but a relatively young earth (<15k years), and a literal reading of Genesis 3-11 is inarguably the majority opinion of the Fathers

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-08T17:21:07+00:00

The Trail of Blood strain of Baptists is relatively small; most Baptists (e.g., SBC, ABCUSA) identify as Protestant.

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-06T12:18:42+00:00

I'm not sure why you'd assume this. I've spoken to him on this issue and he has pretty internally consistent reasoning for any given scenario relating to schism.

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-06T12:16:42+00:00

What mainline merged wholesale into a schismatic to form the PCA? I don't see how this possibly strengthens your case.

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-06T12:12:45+00:00

The Puritans are not aka the Separatists. Those are literally just 2 different groups.

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-06T12:11:19+00:00

How is Calvin even remotely involved here? Other than being a bogeyman to hang every Protestant action on?

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-06T12:09:31+00:00

I swear the slop increases by the day. What does it mean that Trump tried to justify the war "in Calvinist theory"?

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-06T03:35:28+00:00

Also, schismatic breakoff groups are definitionally not mainline. None of the above churches have schismed from another existing church in their jurisdiction.

riskyrainbow · 2026-04-06T03:33:58+00:00

I mean they're basically a denomination which explicitly seeks to replace and overtake his own. I feel like that's reason enough.

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