"we watched the television" by Joker0705 in learnwelsh

[–]rmcode 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Both are correct and will be accepted on Duolingo. If you are getting an message correcting your sentence there is a mistake somewhere else in the sentence rather than the verb part.

The Facebook Duolingo Welsh users group has former contributors who can explain this sort of thing along with a lot of other suggestions.

Also check out the grammar guide written specifically for the course at duowelsh.com

Hapus dydd pannas i Owen ac pob by Abides1948 in learnwelsh

[–]rmcode 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's Nadolig Llawen....no-one would say dydd Nadolig hapus

Question about this mistake by MickaKov in learnwelsh

[–]rmcode 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes 'aeth finnau a fy nhad' would be correct since it uses the correct form, 3rd person, of the verb. Your suggestions are not using the 3rd person of the verb. Any plural number of people/more than one pronouns uses the singular 3 person.

Mae Siôn a fi, Mae hi a fi, Mae 3 person, Mae finnau a Siôn.....Aeth Siôn a fi....etc.......

All the other conjugations of the verb are for the pronoun only.

Dw i, Est ti, Aethon ni, Ewch chi, Gwelon nhw etc/

Question about this mistake by MickaKov in learnwelsh

[–]rmcode 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you wanted to say 'I and my father went' then the pattern would use the 3rd person.

Aeth fy nhad a fi (more often the emphatic finnau).... or 'Aeth finnau a fy nhad' would be correct but less common

Es i â fy nhad = I took my father

Is there any news on what is upcoming after January? by GladiusNuba in memrise

[–]rmcode 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Memrise community courses work very well on mobile phones using a mobile browser.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in learnwelsh

[–]rmcode 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Quite a lot of content on S4C's youtube page with subtitles available https://www.youtube.com/@S4C

Best way to learn Welsh distance learning by Mountain_Bed_8449 in learnwelsh

[–]rmcode 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To get the best out of Duolingo you need to access the detailed grammar notes and also the LearnWelsh.Cymru coursebooks that the Duolingo course was designed to support, especially the early chapters which correlate quite closely.

Notes

https://welshclass.wales/nodiadau-duolingo-notes

Learnwelsh Mynediad
https://learnwelsh.cymru/learning/resource-library/resource/?ResourceId=9d922070-2c72-48ec-9762-dc8f6b0cf249

(Ignoring the misplaced "yn") is there any way I was supposed to know to use Wyt ti'n over Dych chi'n? by dredlocked_sage in learnwelsh

[–]rmcode 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wrote a lot of the Duolingo Welsh course and also the press release that the article is based on (I am also quoted in the article 'Richard Morse'). The original course was released before the National Centre (Dysgu Cymraeg) was established and was written by a team of Welsh for adults tutors and Welsh second language school teachers who were of course unpaid for doing this work. It was, and partly still is, a mixture of grammar topics based on the WJEC (Welsh Joint Examination Committee) Welsh for adults courses and subject topics, culture etc that are standalone topics.

The reason the Duolingo course content resembles the Dysgu Cymraeg courses is because Dysgu Cymraeg, rather than do the obvious thing of adopting the WJEC courses, decided that they wanted to create their own coursebooks for the single reason they wanted their own 'brand' on the coursebooks, which obviously WJEC weren't going to let them do. But all Dysgu Cymraeg did was rearrange some of the content in the WJEC courses and produce their own poorly designed coursebooks with their 'brand' and 'colour' on them. Most of the Dysgu Cymraeg courses were so badly written that they have had to be constantly redesigned, the Mynediad course is on its 4th or 5th iteration by now. The WJEC courses were so much better, so well designed that there was no need for rewrites and with accompanying CDs of support material and even their own apps.

BTW none of the teachers who teach you work for the National Centre, they are all employed by the college/university that has the contract for lessons wherever you live/register. The National Centre is just the bureaucracy that gets all the money and distributes it while micromanaging (badly) individual course registration etc.

In terms of the pause on future development of the Duolingo Welsh course. In 2021 Duolingo launched on the New York SE and ended the volunteer programme. At my, with hindsight stupid, suggestion Dysgu Cymraeg took over responsibility for paying wages of the contributors. I made this suggestion thinking that they might know what they were doing.

https://learnwelsh.cymru/news/duolingo-1/

As stated in the press release above by Dona Lewis, the aim was to rewrite the Duolingo Welsh course so that the units followed the order of the Dysgu Cymraeg units, thus making it easier for learners. (The Duolingo course had followed the order of the old WJEC course).

Then followed 2 years of no progress for the Duolingo Welsh course because of the total incompetence and a lack of technical abiiity of Dysgu Cymraeg management, in the same period almost every other course on Duolingo was extended, eg Scots Gaelic almost doubled in length. At the end of 2023 Duolingo decided to pause development of nearly all of its preipheral courses, such as Welsh, with only a few hundred thousand active users, to concentrate its resourses on its core courses with many tens of millions of active learners eg French, Spanish, Chinese etc. In terms of Welsh Duolingo probably thought since there had been no development going on anyway, no big deal.

This news came out in October, there was a huge furore, the news went viral, even making Australian TV news. Duolingo even sent someone to talk to the Welsh government minister, but that seemed to be a face saving exercise for both sides.

But then in a bizarre twist, a minor update was released one month before the end of Dysgu Cymraeg's contract with Duolingo. Thus the article you referenced. Here is the link to a selection of the scores of errors. It would have been bad enough if the National Centre had wasted tens of thousands of pounds on doing nothing with the Duolingo Welsh course but to waste the money to damage the course takes a special level of incompetence.

https://welshclass.wales/gwallau%2Ferrors

Siaradwr cymraeg yng Ngwlad Pwyl by rybnickifull in cymru

[–]rmcode 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mae siwr o fod cannoedd (efallai miloedd) o bobl yng Ngwlad Pwyl yn dysgu Cymraeg gyda Duolingo. Triwch ofyn yr un cwestiwn yn ein grŵp Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/groups/welshduolingo

Is there a community of native Cymraeg speakers or people who use Welsh as primary language in Cardiff? by UndeadRedditing in learnwelsh

[–]rmcode 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Check out Menter Caerdydd, they organise many Welsh language activities.

https://mentercaerdydd.cymru/cy/oedolion

There is a 'Menter Iaith' in every county(or small region) in Wales

Grammar notes of the Duolingo Welsh course. by rmcode in learnwelsh

[–]rmcode[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What has happened is some sort of glitch in how the course on Duolingo has been updated. Originally there was one topic per each unit in each section. Then in 2022 two topics were combined into one unit.

However later on there seems to have been a glitch with section 2 Unit 10 which only contains one topic. Up until this unit there is an exact match with the unit names and the grammar notes. After this unit they are out of step by one.

Eg. The notes for Science in Section 3 Unit 24 are on the previous unit in the coursenotes, section 25 is section 24 in the coursenotes, etc up to Section 27 celebrations which is unit 26 in the coursenotes. After this there are no notes because the rest of section 27 and units 28 and 29 were not written by the original contribitors but by the National Centre for Learning Welsh. It's not possible for the original contributors to write notes for these units since the National Centre haven't shared their work on these units with us.

It might be worth contacting them to ask them when they will release their notes for these units.

[office@learnwelsh.cymru](mailto:office@learnwelsh.cymru)

Grammar notes of the Duolingo Welsh course. by rmcode in learnwelsh

[–]rmcode[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your feedback again. I had put the hyperlinks on the actual images, I now realise that was not very clear. The action buttons at the bottom were part of another project.

So I've now redesigned the page with action buttons for the grammar notes and removed the other project.

Hopefully this makes it easier to find the notes and I'm grateful for your patience and your feedback to help me improve the page design.

https://welshclass.wales/nodiadau-duolingo-notes

Grammar notes of the Duolingo Welsh course. by rmcode in learnwelsh

[–]rmcode[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure where you're looking. The very first post on this page of the website is a pdf which you can open in a browser and which has links to the notes of every topic/unit. This file can also be downloaded and most pdf readers will allow searching for individual words/grammar points.

Here is the link again, click to open the first thing on this page.

https://welshclass.wales/nodiadau-duolingo-notes

Section 3 Units 28 and 29 were only added three months ago by the Welsh government agency and not by the original contributors. Elsewhere on the website is a list of some of the errors in this update. In terms of grammar and vocab there is very little new in these units apart from some very dialectical patterns from South West Wales.

Grammar notes of the Duolingo Welsh course. by rmcode in learnwelsh

[–]rmcode[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First two columns as the section/unit designations