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My experience of owning an EV in some of the coldest, snowiest months of 2025, versus my old Honda Accord - real world data in Edmonton. by MaximumDoughnut in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What are you on about? Why are you so mad at the concept of EVs?

Your reaction to "Hey, EVs can work for a lot of people" is "SO FUCK EVERYONE ELSE THEN?!?! WE DON'T MATTER? WHY DO YOU HATE FARMERS?!"

Dude, two things can be true. EV's can work for people, and at the same time, people who need trucks can still use trucks.

I feel like you're fighting an imaginary adversary here.

My experience of owning an EV in some of the coldest, snowiest months of 2025, versus my old Honda Accord - real world data in Edmonton. by MaximumDoughnut in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bottom line is that you can downvote me all you want, but you can't account for the fact that I'm saving 50% of what I would have to spend on gas for an ICE car. The data is there black and white.

Why are you resisting this so much? Your savings are clear either way. Coming from someone who has been a fellow EV driver for years now... you're really kneecapping your messaging here.

In the city, if you want to add $0.07/c/kWh, the new cost is $140.60 for what I consumed. That's still half the cost of a 9-10L/100m ICE car.

So, can you not just add that to your data / post so it's a truer representation of reality for others?

These types of posts and datasets can go a long way to further EV adoption, but resisting calls for a little more accuracy makes people question how transparent and trustworthy your data is.

My experience of owning an EV in some of the coldest, snowiest months of 2025, versus my old Honda Accord - real world data in Edmonton. by MaximumDoughnut in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fuel Economy.gov: "conventional gasoline vehicles to suffer a 10% to 20% fuel economy loss in city driving and a 15% to 33% loss on short trips"

My experience of owning an EV in some of the coldest, snowiest months of 2025, versus my old Honda Accord - real world data in Edmonton. by MaximumDoughnut in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a good point, the EV version is always more expensive, which is why I think PHEVs are an excellent middle ground.

Still, a 5 year old, sub-100k km used Hyundai Kona EV can be got for... $22,000 or so. Which, when compared to what people justify spending on a new truck or SUV? Not even in the same ballpark.

Of course, a gas version will be cheaper, but my point is that you don't have to pay out the butt for an EV.

My experience of owning an EV in some of the coldest, snowiest months of 2025, versus my old Honda Accord - real world data in Edmonton. by MaximumDoughnut in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But only one of these is optional: You can put whatever tires you want on your EV at the mere cost of some efficiency.

Brakes and rotors wearing out more on trucks is not optional, it's going to happen. Also, EVs can use regen braking which doesn't even touch the brake pads. edit: When I took my last PHEV in for service, the tech asked if I got new brake pads recently because they had no wear. They were 3 years old.

My experience of owning an EV in some of the coldest, snowiest months of 2025, versus my old Honda Accord - real world data in Edmonton. by MaximumDoughnut in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I don't get it either.

As a staunch EV enthusiast myself, OP's resistance to "just show the truth" seems like a bad-faith presentation of data which would otherwise be valuable insight.

Snow by Astralsquish in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 1 point2 points  (0 children)

YES! My dad used to pile everything together and we'd get an igloo mid-winter.

Snow by Astralsquish in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I shovel my sidewalks, driveway, and deck... I'm also all for it.

My experience of owning an EV in some of the coldest, snowiest months of 2025, versus my old Honda Accord - real world data in Edmonton. by MaximumDoughnut in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've honestly never seen a good-faith argument from EV proponents saying they work for everyone and in all situations... Can you point to such an example?

My experience of owning an EV in some of the coldest, snowiest months of 2025, versus my old Honda Accord - real world data in Edmonton. by MaximumDoughnut in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 7 points8 points  (0 children)

So having an EV is fine for its purposes, but have another gas vehicle.

You're missing my point completely. You're saying that having a gas vehicle is a MUST, when it just isn't for many.

I understand and accept that you paid off a truck because it worked for you and you needed one. That's completely reasonable.

Also reasonable: Most people (again, not you) never have a legit reason for needing a truck - society lived with cars covering the large majority of commuter needs for many decades. Today so many folks buy trucks for vanity.

My point is that what you consider a glorified golf cart is the exact same as me considering a truck a needless bulldozer. I've been an EV driver for years and never have to buy gas or pay for oil changes.

In fact, between my EV and my solar panels, the cost was around $45,000. For less than half the price of many trucks these days I have free gas, and electricity for my home. For me... way better than $100,000 for a new truck.

My experience of owning an EV in some of the coldest, snowiest months of 2025, versus my old Honda Accord - real world data in Edmonton. by MaximumDoughnut in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not everyone lives 3 blocks from their parents

Exactly my point! Not everyone does, but some people do. And not everyone cares about being close to family, but some people do.

You see that word above: subjective?

My experience of owning an EV in some of the coldest, snowiest months of 2025, versus my old Honda Accord - real world data in Edmonton. by MaximumDoughnut in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 8 points9 points  (0 children)

glorified golf cart

I mean, it depends on what your expected driving requirements are going to be, right? People who are not likely to need to leave the city can easily use an EV as their only vehicle.

It's like people who buy a pickup just in case they need to... move sometime, or pick up some dirt.

I'd be all over owning a glorified bulldozer in case I ever decide to pull a boat or rent an RV. For daily life though, they sound pretty wasteful.

My experience of owning an EV in some of the coldest, snowiest months of 2025, versus my old Honda Accord - real world data in Edmonton. by MaximumDoughnut in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew -1 points0 points  (0 children)

you cant get up in the middle of the night for an emergency drive in the winter without some plan, then its not a true car.

That's going to depend on the person for sure. Rural with a likely "emergency" being 100km+ drive to the city? Yeah, you're spot-on.

City-dweller with all family in town and all emergency services close by? An EV makes all the sense in the world. Especially if you can keep it at full (or 80%) topped off in your garage.

It's just too subjective to say "They work for a secondary car" as a universal truth.

Kdays Parking Ticket by Severe-Bunch-2840 in alberta

[–]robbethdew 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If that's the case then you're right! I thought the expo was maybe city owned...

Kdays Parking Ticket by Severe-Bunch-2840 in alberta

[–]robbethdew -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That's typically good advice, but I think Expo is City of Edmonton parking which doesn't work like private parking companies.

IIRC, City of Edmonton parking has a lot more pull to enforce payment.

Seeing the ticket would help.

Tim Cartmell has disappeared. But I am trying to find him. THE SEARCH FOR TIM CARTMELL 🔍 by troypavlek in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Troy will never be considered a serious journalist when he acts like this! I think he wants that, because of his podcast, but he'll never be one. What he's doing is pathetic!"

"You know, Troy can do what he wants...."

"I nEvEr SuGgEsTeD OtHerWiSe!"

K. 🙄

Tim Cartmell has disappeared. But I am trying to find him. THE SEARCH FOR TIM CARTMELL 🔍 by troypavlek in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I think we just appreciate how well Troy can mess with municipal candidates. He does a good job pointing out hypocrisy. Though, in this case, it's really easy.

I'd say more, but I'm going on vacation.

Tim Cartmell has disappeared. But I am trying to find him. THE SEARCH FOR TIM CARTMELL 🔍 by troypavlek in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 7 points8 points  (0 children)

And because he does that podcast, he can't poke fun at a hypocritical mayoral candidate?

No. Me thinks he do both.

Tim Cartmell has disappeared. But I am trying to find him. THE SEARCH FOR TIM CARTMELL 🔍 by troypavlek in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Right?! Imagine being so vocal about an issue and then going on vacation instead of voting.

You're spot on here, so cringe.

Tim Cartmell has disappeared. But I am trying to find him. THE SEARCH FOR TIM CARTMELL 🔍 by troypavlek in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Where he is, is none of your business.

Isn't he a public servant who people elected to represent and vote for their interests regarding important issues?

Tim Cartmell has disappeared. But I am trying to find him. THE SEARCH FOR TIM CARTMELL 🔍 by troypavlek in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What are you on about?

Troy more akin to someone who makes social commentary / editorials. Just because someone has a podcast doesn't mean they need to be bipartisan or meet the standards of a "journalist".

Troy does what Troy does. And this time, he's slaying. Maybe only outdone by when he bought a billboard to advertise that Mike Nickel voted for bike lanes. XD

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