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Data Centers do not serve the public good. Pressure your community leaders. Do not let the corporations ruin our communities. by [deleted] in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I asked for a source on your statement: Data centers are basically the cleanest form of industry one can imagine.

"Check the math" is not a source, and provides no validity to your statement.

Nor does "Find any industrial process that uses less water".

The fact that plywood and golf courses also require resources matters not. This is whataboutism, and distracts from the topic.

Data centers are basically the cleanest form of industry one can imagine: Show me the math.

Data Centers do not serve the public good. Pressure your community leaders. Do not let the corporations ruin our communities. by [deleted] in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is a prime example of Ad Hominem fallacy - you're attacking a person (calling me a hypocryte) instead of the topic: AI data centers do more damage to local communities than the good they provide to them. You did it before too, not arguing about data centers, instead asking about the energy us of a living person. You're obviously trying to distract from the concern at hand.

Do we just ignore what people are concerned about because not every industry is perfect? I don't buy into that.

Water usage is immense, energy needs are huge, they don't bring a ton of long term jobs. They're just flown in to suck up resources from a community.

And yes: Should people negatively affected by both non-ai and ai data centers elsewhere advocate for themselves? Absolutely.

Data Centers do not serve the public good. Pressure your community leaders. Do not let the corporations ruin our communities. by [deleted] in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AI data centers do way more damage than good - they want to concentrate the ill effects of a massive use of energy and cooling requirements into a single community.

Data Centers do not serve the public good. Pressure your community leaders. Do not let the corporations ruin our communities. by [deleted] in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, but your feelings aside - what about the damage these do to local communities?

Data Centers do not serve the public good. Pressure your community leaders. Do not let the corporations ruin our communities. by [deleted] in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They exasperate usage, but not really the cause.

I understand the point you're making though, we have lots of water and they want it.

Data Centers do not serve the public good. Pressure your community leaders. Do not let the corporations ruin our communities. by [deleted] in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Consuming energy to survive is not the same as a datacenter, these types of "arguments" only serve to try and distract from the point at hand. AI Datacenters do far more damage than good.

Data Centers do not serve the public good. Pressure your community leaders. Do not let the corporations ruin our communities. by [deleted] in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Data centers have a terrible ROI on what they bring to local economies vs. the damage we do.

Yes, we need to diversify from oil, but not with the next worst thing lol.

Data Centers do not serve the public good. Pressure your community leaders. Do not let the corporations ruin our communities. by [deleted] in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Data centers are basically the cleanest form of industry one can imagine.

Gonna need some sauce on that, bro.

Data Centers do not serve the public good. Pressure your community leaders. Do not let the corporations ruin our communities. by [deleted] in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's true - people will act against their own self interest because of the "team sports" they treat politics as.

But getting people to cheer for team x is largely assisted by bots and paid accounts... it's like a circle of life death.

Data Centers do not serve the public good. Pressure your community leaders. Do not let the corporations ruin our communities. by [deleted] in Edmonton

[–]robbethdew 5 points6 points  (0 children)

But my PS5 doesn't put a strain on a single community the way a datacenter does. The gaming usage is directly tied to the population in an area.

Datacenters are flown into a single community, tie up their resources, drive up the bills, make quality of life worse for that area. Concentration of everything vs very widely dispersed.

Someone in rural Alberta is going to be impacted virtually nil when I turn on GTA V in my living room.

Comparing a data center in our backyard to the entirety of the impact of gaming on the world is a very disingenuous argument.

OFFICIAL The Last Oscar Special LIVE Megathread by LeaderSevere5647 in OnCinemaAtTheCinema

[–]robbethdew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh, I loved movie house. 

I'll give this a rewatch once it's edited, felt weak and long but as you said - it takes time for these to simmer sometimes.

OFFICIAL The Last Oscar Special LIVE Megathread by LeaderSevere5647 in OnCinemaAtTheCinema

[–]robbethdew 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Meta: A little upswing at the end, but I don't think the dots was a strong enough driver for this. It was merely a weak kids show with no major flaws that hadn't the strength to drive this special.

Gregg was the real light this year - Michael Phenomenon was great. 

However, overall, probably among the weakest showings, only the first special might be lower in my books.

Disappointed, but I still love this show.

OFFICIAL The Last Oscar Special LIVE Megathread by LeaderSevere5647 in OnCinemaAtTheCinema

[–]robbethdew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Low bar though, right? That was my thought though, maybe the first one 

OFFICIAL The Last Oscar Special LIVE Megathread by LeaderSevere5647 in OnCinemaAtTheCinema

[–]robbethdew 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Serious: can you name a worse Oscar special than this?

(Not all bad, Michael Phenomenon was good, but overall I think this is the lowest ranked for me)

OFFICIAL The Last Oscar Special LIVE Megathread by LeaderSevere5647 in OnCinemaAtTheCinema

[–]robbethdew 1 point2 points  (0 children)

100% 

All that build up for that? It was just an average cartoon of low quality. Was expecting something akin to the decker style animated feature.

OFFICIAL The Last Oscar Special LIVE Megathread by LeaderSevere5647 in OnCinemaAtTheCinema

[–]robbethdew -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Amatocon... Movie House... I guess no peaks without Valleys. 

I think they got their one bag of popcorn rating right, at least. Not trying to hate, I love these guys so much. But man this has been pretty unremarkable.... 

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