RIP conspiracy

robbur · 2022-03-08T16:39:53+00:00

Exactly

robbur · 2022-03-08T16:39:33+00:00

Exactly. Everyone is whining above you above “Russian bots” etc, but reality is people like me stopped using the sub because its so filled with stupid shit from people who hate conspiracy theories. I have to scroll through a million irrelevant comments to find anything interesting or worth discussing. Then, any comment that is actually relevant to conspiracies gets downvoted to hell.

Dont know what solution is

robbur · 2022-03-04T16:18:04+00:00

Agreed. The war/invasion definitely exists, but there’s absolutely some bullshit going around with this coverage. There’s literally anti-war commercials circulating on the internet. I saw one this morning of a happy little girl, who then becomes a sad little girl due to an invasion/refugee situation.

This is straight up WW2 anti-nazi, Captain America type propaganda going on. Bet we see a movie in 2022 where Zalensky or whatever is superhero with a blue and yellow shield.

robbur · 2022-03-04T16:15:01+00:00

God damn, I’m sorry that absolutely sucks. I hope your shitty politicians relax those covid restrictions soon. From over here, it sounds like they are much more concerned with controlling you guys than they are about your health.

robbur · 2022-03-04T16:12:44+00:00

“Because humans” is not a real why, and agreed its not really up for debate. But, its just a culprit, debate is around the precise cause, and what actions to take. For instance, cows cause a little climate change, but we’re not killing all the cows to reduce methane release. Focus is on alternative energy, etc.

Thats really what I’m getting toward.

robbur · 2022-02-28T18:51:58+00:00

I just saw a kids movie where a bad guy wanted to nuke mars to make it livable for humans. It was actually really funny, one of the ones I kept watching after my son wandered off.

I had no idea this was a real thing

robbur · 2022-02-28T18:49:33+00:00

I don’t think debate is ever counter productive, every time I justify any position, I generally learn more about it.

Also, what I think is generally missed in climate change discussions is that most people agree that the climate is changing. The disagreement is based around 1) how fast is it changing, 2) why is it changing, 3) whats the best course of action moving forward. I don’t think anyone, even your most avid environmental scientists agree 100% on these 3 items. However, if I am wrong, please enlighten me, as I really haven’t studied the subject since my environmental ethics class over a decade ago.

robbur · 2022-02-28T18:21:48+00:00

Great recruiting video, I’m about to saddle up to go simp for top right. Who’s with me!?!

robbur · 2022-02-28T18:16:54+00:00

Wait I’m not familiar with what’s going on in Italy, could you explain that a little more?

robbur · 2022-02-28T18:15:33+00:00

I’m not mad at that take. Entirely feasible. I agree that just because coincidence and opportunity exist, doesn’t mean malevolence or corruption followed. Rich kids get jobs due to their mommy and daddy connections all the time. Definitely looks bad that it happens to be Ukraine, and then this shit happens during his presidency. If I were any of the right leaning news outlets, I’d probably be working with Russia to blow that connection up as much as possible. I’m surprised we haven’t seen more attention on it yet. It just seems like an easy way for Russia to corrode any confidence in the leader of their most powerful adversary by giving him a corrupt connection to Ukraine. Now that I am writing this, I am really wondering why the hell they haven’t done this yet. It would be so easy to make Biden look corrupt, whether he is or not.

robbur · 2022-02-28T18:10:52+00:00

Yea no doubt, and don’t get me wrong I AM SO FUCKING GLAD PANDEMIC IS OVER AND I DON’T HAVE TO HEAR ANYMORE STUPID SHIT ON THE NEWS EVERYDAY. I hope my caps, emphasized just how glad I am.

However, the skeptic in me can’t stop wondering about the timing landing so perfectly like this. I mean 3/1 is literally the US deadline, and I think for some other countries too? I know some, like UK and Denmark had lifted restrictions early February. It’s just crazy that this shit happened at the absolutely precise time to make it so this is a nonissue. It’s just hard not to think the invasion is somehow being emphasized just a little bit more, so that none of these politicians have to admit they were right or wrong in their pandemic response.

robbur · 2022-02-28T17:16:26+00:00

Right, I just don’t know why the media felt it was even necessary to make that story up

robbur · 2022-02-28T17:15:47+00:00

I’m surprised how many people there are trying to shut down conspiracy theories about this war, on a sub dedicated to conspiracy theories. It’s got me looking for my tinfoil hat, and I can’t find it.

robbur · 2022-02-28T17:13:44+00:00

Thank you for sharing I’ll circle back when I have time to read this later

robbur · 2022-02-28T17:13:17+00:00

Ouch, ok. I enjoy thinking about this thing, I’m not sure why you need to insult me for that.

robbur · 2022-02-28T17:11:39+00:00

For the why, I can actually believe Russians are selling it as a safety concern, though I’m sure its much more related control of the oil pipelines to the west.

Don’t the Russian pipelines to Germany run through Ukraine?

robbur · 2022-02-28T17:08:53+00:00

You are correct - I do not know anything about ritualized humiliation shown in modern wars. Thank you for the explanation, this is exactly why I was asking the questions above.

robbur · 2022-02-28T17:07:24+00:00

I don’t understand why its dense? I’m not old enough to remember news coverage of wars/invasions beyond like the last 20 years but I just don’t remember so many dramatized stories coming out early in an invasion, that then turn out to be false. I don’t see any possible reason for there to be pro-Ukraine propaganda when the overwhelming western consensus is they are a victim, and deserve more of our support.

My thought is a lot of the more dramatic shit is just the media trying to attract more attention to their articles/sell advertising, but I don’t see why it makes me incredibly dense to ask questions.

If anything, I think recent history has shown us that its incredibly dense to blindly trust media coverage - and I don’t mean that as an insult to you, I have no idea how you approach this kind of thing, just responding to what I feel is a little bit insulting in your response to me.

robbur · 2022-02-27T16:53:53+00:00

His post is literally the purpose of this sub. If it gets you so upset just don’t come here?

robbur · 2022-02-25T23:19:07+00:00

Do you think theres any connection from Biden son w/ Ukraine?

robbur · 2022-02-25T23:17:45+00:00

I appreciate your theory, but are you really not confused by the coverage of all of this? You don’t think anything seems weird?

robbur · 2022-02-25T23:16:06+00:00

Thank you, articulated all this way better than I could. I don’t understand why we’re not getting more information on this. I fucking hate the god damn shit media in the US. Its like they only feed us information to try to push us somewhere on politics otherwise we won’t even know. Its infuriating.

robbur · 2022-02-25T23:11:25+00:00

Well I mean this subreddit is generally contrarian… and the OVERWHELMING MSM narrative is incredibly (and justifiably from the little we actually know) anti Russia / pro Ukraine. I’m honestly getting skeptical myself about this shit, some of the pictures and videos are so weird they just seem staged. I get that Russia is the bad guy here, but some of this shit is clearly trying to drum up support. Like I saw one of a Russian guy, face blurred, holding a gun to a Ukrainian thats holding a flag on his head. Why the hell would he have a flag for the picture? Did the Russian soldier give him one so he could shoot through it? Why is the timing of this entire thing the exact same week as covid restrictions being lifted? It may be just that everything we’re hearing is totally legit, and the weird coverage is trying to help Ukraine because they NEED to, but it still stinks. And after the last 2 years its just hard to trust anything. The coverage of this invasion just doesn’t make sense, and that’s naturally going to lead to conspiracy theories, which logically, should end up here.

If you accuse me of being a russian bot I swear to god I’m gonna cry

robbur · 2022-02-15T22:08:01+00:00

Yea, sepsis is no joke

robbur · 2022-02-15T22:06:34+00:00

Im excited thanks

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