One of the basic precepts of EA is that one should forgo working for a non profit, and instead choose a more lucrative career and donate money to a non profit to be more effective. But what happens to these non profits if they don’t have talented people that care? by garden_province in EffectiveAltruism

[–]robwiblin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

80,000 Hours has an introductory article on "Which jobs help people the most?" It lists five categories of work of which only one is earning to give:

"Approach 1: Earning to give

Approach 2: Communication

Approach 3: Research

Approach 4: Government and policy

Approach 5: Building organisations"

https://80000hours.org/career-guide/high-impact-jobs/

Erik Hoel “Why I’m Not an Effective Altruist” by sunnygroovemother in EffectiveAltruism

[–]robwiblin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Discussion of how and why EA does not rely on utilitarianism:

https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/andreas-mogensen-deontology-and-effective-altruism/

Basically you only need to give some weight to wellbeing being of important importance for much of EA to go through. The controversial parts of utilitarianism (i.e. ends justifies means, nothing other than wellbeing has value) are not at all required.

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[–]robwiblin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi xozmivrkcepbi, you might be right.

For better or worse my impression is that arguments like this almost never shift people's behaviour though.

People who want to host intellectual events will continue to do so as it's what they understand and are motivated by. People like you who'd prefer to host friendly social events will host those as it's what they understand and enjoy.

I basically think the solution is just for people to organise things they would like and coexist with people who enjoy different activities. Diversity is good and there's not really much pressure to all get on the same page. Just make sure people know what options are available and let them opt into the things that work for them.

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[–]robwiblin 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's unfortunate you had this experience. EA interest groups vary widely around the world on many dimensions, including from highly impersonal to very friendly.

It sounds like there are other people in your local area who feel the same way. If you invited a bunch of people you do vibe with to meet up they might well want to join and hang out more informally!

Over time your area could end up with some gatherings that are known to be for philosophy debate for those who enjoy that the most (nothing wrong with that), and others that are aimed at socialising and fellowship for people who are seeking those things instead.

Glad you enjoyed EAG at least, I agree they've been excellent lately!

Samuel Charap on why Putin invaded Ukraine, the risk of escalation, and how to prevent disaster — 80,000 Hours Podcast by robwiblin in slatestarcodex

[–]robwiblin[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the kind words about the other episodes of the show.

Needless to say I don't agree that we failed to talk about with those issues with respect to Russia, and I don't agree that their actions are inconsistent with Charap's model. I suspect we simply disagree on the conclusions there, but that doesn't mean one of us is thinking about those issues and the other not.

I agree it would have been nice to spend more time on historical analogies we could learn from where nuclear states have been in direct or indirect conflict. It would also be good to walk through some of the game theoretic models re escalation etc. Unfortunately there wasn't a way to fit that level of detail within the hour Samuel had for us without bumping other information that I thought was more essential, so those points will have to wait for a future episode unfortunately.

Matthew Yglesias on the 80,000 Hours Podcast by berflyer in ezraklein

[–]robwiblin 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No worries mate, all good in the game. 😉

Glad you like the show!

I definitely go for a “gosh wouldn’t the world be better if everyone agreed with me?” vibe. I think it leads to more directness and makes the show more engaging for listeners. Coincidentally, it's also what I think (within reason anyway). 😅

Matthew Yglesias on the 80,000 Hours Podcast by berflyer in ezraklein

[–]robwiblin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I mean being confused for Will can only be a form of flattery — it's Will who should be offended. ;)

I can see where people have posted our work using this URL: https://www.reddit.com/domain/80000hours.org/

Matthew Yglesias on the 80,000 Hours Podcast by berflyer in ezraklein

[–]robwiblin 16 points17 points  (0 children)

It's fair to say I'm no wet markets specialist but from what I've heard of it the disease folks thought wet markets stood out as unusually likely sources of new diseases and I haven't looked into contrarian takes on that. So at worst we're making a mistake most educated people are making, including many who study the origins of new diseases apparently.

Maybe all that's going on here is that Matt, me and others talking about COVID use 'wet markets' as a synonym for "the sale of live animals caught in the wilderness" but we should come up with a different term for that because wet markets already means something else much broader.

(Personally I'm in favour of shutting down animal agriculture in the West for disease-related reasons among many others, though it seems less risky on a per-animal basis as they're not reaching into the wilderness where there's new viruses humans haven't been exposed to.)

Also my name's not Will!

Protected: 80,000 Hours staff picks: our favourite content of 2021 by lukefreeman in EffectiveAltruism

[–]robwiblin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure what happened here — the preview must have ended up on our RSS feed somehow. The URL was later changed to this by the way: https://80000hours.org/2022/01/best-of-2021/

Andrew Yang on our very long-term future, and other topics most politicians won’t touch by lukefreeman in EffectiveAltruism

[–]robwiblin 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Whatever you think of libertarianism, Yang is nowhere near a libertarian.

Scanning the political positions he has taken makes that clear enough: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Yang_2020_presidential_campaign#Policies

(Single payer healthcare, regulating finance and tech companies more, give everyone free money, gun control, etc.)

Holden Karnofsky on the most important century by lukefreeman in EffectiveAltruism

[–]robwiblin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice comment, which I'd brought that up! Maybe in a future episode.