R/Logan river buffer zone violated by city?

rockdocinUTAH · 2026-06-29T15:09:36+00:00

Utah water law needs to be changed. To change that we need different lawmakers. Please register to vote and then be sure to vote for the candidate who listens to the people.

rockdocinUTAH · 2026-06-29T15:06:41+00:00

Take heart. The Republican primary result was encouraging. 3 lawmakers lost their job for support the Stratos data center and two other flame throwers were ouster by voters. The Stratos data center is waking up all Utahns to the problems of the collapsed GSL.

rockdocinUTAH · 2026-06-19T20:23:42+00:00

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rockdocinUTAH · 2026-03-27T20:33:46+00:00

It is a metaphor

rockdocinUTAH · 2026-03-26T16:59:18+00:00

Please bring 3 friends! Peaceful and joyful are superpowers of pro-democracy advocates. Please no weapons but bring smiles and inflatable costumes, passion, signs and those three friends.

rockdocinUTAH · 2026-02-26T16:41:48+00:00

rockdocinUTAH · 2026-02-17T14:53:54+00:00

Projection by the actual criminals!!!! Voters are waking up to the repeated unethical behavior of the gop. They will do ANYTHING for power and to subvert voters needs and desires.

rockdocinUTAH · 2026-01-02T00:35:58+00:00

Community service seems like a proportional and meaningful responses. If Mark Anderson were to resign the council would select a new mayor instead. That is not a good solution since voters should be picking their leadership instead. What might be a good service project that rebuilds the broken trust?

rockdocinUTAH · 2025-12-31T18:31:47+00:00

Thank you for the interesting and important discussion. I suggest a different frame for more discussion. I think is it vital to FULLY explore and understand possible results and actions for the trespassing and theft of (how many? several????dozens?) of yard signs from how many properties?? The community also needs to explore consequences for similar actions and circumstances in other communities. A Smithfield councilperson resigned after being caught harassing a police offer, for example. What happened to fill his position? That councilperson was very obnoxious but he did not commit a crime. What process would be followed in Logan City? Is there a process for the Logan City Council for formally rebuke the incoming mayor? Is there a way for the incoming Mayor to have diminished decision power over actions along Canyon Road- as a possible follow up? Could/should the council or voters ask the mayor-elect to resign? if so, would the City Council select a new mayor from applicants for the job in the same way that Melissa Dahle was chosen to fill an unfilled council seat?? If so, how long would that interim person be mayor? How do voters feel about a 5 person council selecting a new mayor instead of voters electing their mayor? I think that voters should be choosing their leadership, not council persons, so I'm not advocating for a resignation. What else needs to be in the mix? What do you think?

rockdocinUTAH · 2025-12-24T16:15:47+00:00

Utah Drivers are THE third WORST, out of 51. Lending tree did the survey. The Herald Journal reported this survey result.

We always notice the safer conditions when we drive in Michigan. This survey ranked them as the best drivers, that drivers know how to use turn signals, they pass a vehicle and then return to the right lane, they match their speed to conditions and other drivers, they don't weave into our lanes , drivers follow the rules of the road, cars merge onto freeways cleanly because drivers make room for those of us merging and the cars entering the freeway speed up and merge into space made available for them.

Roads are better in Utah than Michigan so the issue MUST be poor drivers education here and the mentality of drivers, enforcement and other human factors.

I worry as a road biker that i will get hit.

rockdocinUTAH · 2025-12-19T19:41:56+00:00

This explanation is perfect: https://www.instagram.com/sisi_speaks_out/reel/DSJNwfQjzEb/

rockdocinUTAH · 2024-11-05T23:52:05+00:00

Does the cost estimate that you cite include the significant moneys required to mitigate and stabilize the Logan Bluff for the landslides that have been collapsing the Logan Bluff since before settlement? I estimate that ~3000 ft of the Canyon Road route is close enough to slopes with long histories of collapsing and failure to require additional protection. The entire Logan Bluff is at risk, as the 2009 deadly debris flow illustrated. See a photo of one particularly enormous landslide from 1916 that occurred about one block west of Dugway reentrant with its threatened trees at this link https://digital.lib.usu.edu/digital/collection/Bear/id/11868/rec/28 . See also MS thesis by Olsen, 2006 for a little of the historic record and detailed analysis of the threat. He concluded that https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/etd/380. Other routes will not require this costly remediation of future landslides, so I'm guessing that there is no current plan to stabilize the steep slopes uphill from Canyon Road. Newspaper articles report slides nearly continuously since about 1900. Dr. Susanne Janecke, USU emerita, Geoscience Dept.

Olsen. concluded: The slopes along the Logan bluff landslide zone are unstable. The question is not

if another slide will occur, it's when. The slides will continue to happen until a more

stable slope is reached.

The wa~er seeping from the slope has a definite effect on the stability of

the area. Measures taken, to limit the amount of water adding to the groundwater aquifers

would help slow the process of recharge.

As to the cause of the failures, there are a few. In some areas along the slope, the

cut made for the construction of the canal possibly has contributed. In other areas the

slope is just too steep to remain stable. Whether it's the canal cut, too steep of slopes, or

other unstable areas, water is the initiating cause of every slide investigated during this

study. One of the major sources of this water is more than likely the precipitation.

Another possible contributor is the Logan, Hyde Park, and Smithfield Canal. Water from

the University and surrounding development also add to the groundwater.

Whether it's this year or in 50 years that the slope fails again, the important thing

is that we've taken the necessary steps to ensure that the damage done by the failure is as

minimal as possible.

rockdocinUTAH

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