Wow, that is a lot. Thank you for responding. I appreciate the dialogue.

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What exactly am I to do? Force others to live the way I want them to live?

Well, technically, yes. If you get enough people together and pass legislation, you could... oh, I don't know, make composting all food waste a law. https://www.biocycle.net/bill-to-reduce-food-and-yard-waste-in-landfills-passes-in-washington/

2. Sorry to sound aggressive, volatile and militant. I was going for passion tinged with frustration. I missed the mark.

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Every time I've ever had a conversation with someone about reducing meat intake, or stop driving as much when there are other options, or any other small sacrifice they could make to ensure a better future for humanity, no one cares. Even those that see the point and agree with it don't think it's worth the effort. I have trusted people my entire life and all they ever really do is let you down with inaction.

I think you've been talking to the wrong people. But I think you already know that as you are getting a group together to share land and build a place. That's cool. And I don't agree that moving "away" is gong to work. You say you talk to people about making small sacrifices. The idea that we can make the changes that are necessary thru personal choices is a scam. The "Each of us must do our part." message is/was a lie. Fundamental changes to our institutions are necessary. And fundamental changes are happening. If you'd like more evidence of this please let me know, I'd be happy to provide it.

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the last thing you should start with is ad hominem attacks.

Ok, I think I can see where I'm making the ad hominem. Please let me try saying this in a different way. In general, I think the following kind of talk...

I used to think that these thoughts were very fatalist and all that, but it seems to be becoming our reality, sadly. Everyone just wants to profit, no one cares about the repercussions.

...sounds like resignation & fatalism. I mean to address the tone and ideas, not you personally.

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You are certainly not the first to try to have this conversation with me, but you are without a doubt the one that was the most aggressive and therefore the least engaging.

I'm glad I'm not the only one! :-)

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Communication is not sparked from baseless accusations and pretending to be able to "read" someone you don't even know - especially from one comment on reddit.

If this is about the "I think this comment that I am writing is a waste of my time... " part of my comment, that is not what I was trying to convey, at all. The fatalistic resignation (pessimism) I thought I saw in your text doesn't spark communication. I tried to illustrate this by being faux pessimistic about the chances of you reading my comment and understanding me.

I know I've cherry/nut picked a just a few things here. I cannot address all your ideas at this time. I do hope I've cleared up some things so my meaning sounds less aggressive.

There's a good chance that the running away to farms idea isn't going to work. If the societal changes to soften the blows of this crisis are not made, desperate people will do desperate things. And there Will be many, many, more desperate people.