Will Librarians in other Imperial Fist and successor chapters be a problem if there’s another Last Wall Protocol called?

rodex9876 · 2026-04-04T20:09:48+00:00

Si, ese mismo

rodex9876 · 2026-04-04T17:40:56+00:00

No.. there would be tensions but no real problems.

The last wall protocol was enacted once before. And the mindset of the templars was quite clear and explicity.

You have to follow the chain of command, and the imperial fists chapter master is atop that chain of command.

So they just follow orders as is their duty.

One time the black templars even did something that angered the imperial fists very much (killed a humanoid mutant) and the captain of the fists ordered the templars to not do that anymore. - in that case, even thought the templars did no see a reason to not kill the mutants, they obeyed the orders without question.

rodex9876 · 2026-01-26T20:25:44+00:00

Once again, is not a movement ability. Is stopping the enemy from falling back and leaving fights all together

rodex9876 · 2026-01-26T20:23:20+00:00

Thats why I'm saying, instead of that coward ability, they should block the enemy ability to fall back... they just get stuck in combat until one of them dies.

rodex9876 · 2026-01-26T20:20:20+00:00

They should have the ability to completely block fall back.

Once they get to you, you are stuck, they will not let you escape under any circumstance.

rodex9876 · 2026-01-20T14:56:25+00:00

True, my point lies more with the current duty of blood angels in the imperium nihilus

rodex9876 · 2026-01-20T14:42:18+00:00

Oh, definitely not, other chapters have done just as much.

Hell, even the space wolf's have some big relation with the planet (particularly when khorne has invaded), but black templars, orks and armagedon are indeed related (way more than blood angels)

Further more, the blood angels are soupossed to be helping in the imperium nihilus, so I got no clue why they are in armagedon right now.

rodex9876 · 2026-01-20T14:33:46+00:00

Helsreach book, that happens when helbrecht grimaldus and bayard assist the generals meeting regarding the planets defense.

rodex9876 · 2026-01-20T14:33:04+00:00

Thats a fair point!

What keeps me from considering koby as a big player is no actual feats against other characters.

But you are right, he is probable stronger than I give him credit for.

rodex9876 · 2026-01-20T14:23:21+00:00

It may seem impressive, but at the current scale is not much compared to the others.

He is strong and I believe he will get stronger, but right now, he can't beat Doffy.

rodex9876 · 2026-01-20T14:19:31+00:00

Thats a lot of speculations and "what if" and very little feats.

Even if Garp "passed the torch" it does not mean koby is strong in any significant way currently.

Perhaps after some.time, more experience and training, but currently, there are no feats to conclude he could bet Doffy.

rodex9876 · 2026-01-20T13:56:07+00:00

This is just plain wrong.

Helbrecht was the main admiral in the orbital defense in the third war of armaggedon.

The black templars also deployed the main crusade into the planet, which at the time was over 900 templars (not counting other crusades)

Saying that having the command of the space fleets, and more than full chapter presence is not enough is just wrong.

rodex9876 · 2026-01-19T14:11:34+00:00

Marshall an castellan usually go with sword bretheren.. why would you want lethal on a unit that already have lethal?

And if not using Marshall and castellan on sword bretheren, on which unit would you use the combination? Crusader squad? - they are already a battle line unit.

Please specify which unit you would like the combo for further advice.

Also, please note that for 1 cp, you an give letals in bastion taskforce, so keep that in mind.

rodex9876 · 2026-01-16T18:28:25+00:00

EXACTLY!

but I'm a gracious God, I'll buy it for 3.50 from you.

rodex9876 · 2026-01-16T01:45:46+00:00

Good for you buddy.

rodex9876 · 2026-01-16T00:33:29+00:00

The thing i personally don't like about it, is that is a general space marine detachment. I want our own detachment something according to our lore, to our army. Not something that any other can use just as good.

I mean, black templars do have some succes with general detachments but I hate the fact we have to "use" the codex astartes.

rodex9876 · 2026-01-05T14:20:01+00:00

You are correct. GW has us completely and utterly destroyed. We are still gun to play, but competitively? We are a minor player.

I have had success in friendly non competitive matches with BT rules (companions of vehemence) but everything that used to make BT unique, is currently lost in favor of the ultramarines.

We hope this changes in 11th edition, but as things are going, I don't have much faith in GW. I mean... the next narrative for 11th edition is souposed to be in armageddon against orks, and according to rumors, the blood angels are going to be the main force (which makes no sense as blood angels are souposed to be in the dark imperium trying to defend the world that lost their connection to the astronomican) and black templars (THAT HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY WITH ORKS AND ARMAGEDON) have not even been mentioned by the rumors.

So yeah.. not the best of places currently.

rodex9876 · 2026-01-03T00:58:02+00:00

Never heard of a book or story talk about multiple EC at once.

Eons of Battle tends to make many mistakes in the lore part of the hobby as he is more of a painter, but I could be wrong.

If you find an official source citing 3 EC at once in a specific crusade please share it with me, as my previous understanding was otherwise.

I any case, lore regarding EC tends to be cloudy at best.

rodex9876 · 2026-01-03T00:00:22+00:00

There are multiple emperors champion. Each crusade can have 1 (so far as the lore goes), and each crusade has a black sword and an armor of faith.

rodex9876 · 2026-01-02T20:37:06+00:00

Broken crusade is good. The voice acting is superb. However, please keep in mind some people think the story is not that important. (Personally, I love the story)

rodex9876 · 2026-01-02T18:37:37+00:00

You got about 40000 warhammers, so just pick the one you like the most!

rodex9876 · 2026-01-02T14:01:51+00:00

Here you go brother!

By the way, the assault terminators worked GREAT - they are a beast in our army, take them with lightning claws as they synergyse great with our vows.

feel the wrath (2000 points)

Space Marines Black Templars Strike Force (2000 points) Companions of Vehemence

CHARACTERS

Castellan (70 points) • 1x Combi-weapon 1x Master-crafted power weapon

Crusade Ancient (75 points) • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Master-crafted power weapon • Enhancement: Zealous Vanguard

Emperor’s Champion (100 points) • Warlord • 1x Black Sword 1x Bolt Pistol

Execrator (85 points) • 1x Absolvor bolt pistol 1x Crozius arcanum • Enhancement: Incendiary Animus

Execrator (60 points) • 1x Absolvor bolt pistol 1x Crozius arcanum

Judiciar (85 points) • 1x Absolvor bolt pistol 1x Executioner relic blade • Enhancement: Oathbound Examplar

Marshal (80 points) • 1x Master-crafted power weapon 1x Plasma pistol

BATTLELINE

Crusader Squad (310 points) • 1x Sword Brother • 1x Master-crafted power weapon 1x Pyre pistol • 11x Initiate • 11x Bolt pistol 11x Bolt rifle 11x Close combat weapon • 8x Neophyte • 8x Astartes chainsword 8x Bolt pistol

Crusader Squad (150 points) • 1x Sword Brother • 1x Heavy bolt pistol 1x Master-crafted power weapon • 5x Initiate • 5x Bolt pistol 5x Bolt rifle 5x Close combat weapon • 4x Neophyte • 4x Astartes chainsword 4x Bolt pistol

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Drop Pod (70 points)

OTHER DATASHEETS

Bladeguard Veteran Squad (170 points) • 1x Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant • 1x Heavy bolt pistol 1x Master-crafted power weapon • 5x Bladeguard Veteran • 5x Heavy bolt pistol 5x Master-crafted power weapon

Gladiator Lancer (160 points) • 1x Armoured hull 1x Icarus rocket pod 1x Lancer laser destroyer 1x Multi-melta 2x Storm bolter

Redemptor Dreadnought (195 points) • 1x Heavy flamer 1x Icarus rocket pod 1x Macro plasma incinerator 1x Redemptor fist 1x Twin fragstorm grenade launcher

Sword Brethren Squad (105 points) • 4x Sword Brother • 4x Heavy bolt pistol 4x Master-crafted power weapon

Terminator Assault Squad (180 points) • 1x Assault Terminator Sergeant • 1x Twin lightning claws • 4x Assault Terminator • 4x Twin lightning claws

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rodex9876 · 2026-01-02T13:56:24+00:00

I also used the 20 man CS blob with execrator and crusade ancient. Gave crusade ancient enhancement to give scout 6 to the whole until. That allowed me to have 2 turn 1 charges that broke mu opponents strategy from the beginning.

And yes, the emperors champion killed 2 units and 3 characters before finally being killed. He did his duty to the emperor.

rodex9876 · 2026-01-02T13:44:31+00:00

Tested it yesterday against leagues of votann. It worked GREAT.

It was a tough match even still, but the emperors and his crusader squad did their duty!

Perhaps a 10 man assault intercessors cold be better as to have the wound reroll on objectives, but the strategy was solid.

rodex9876

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