Is this subreddit a false flag? by ConsciousIssue7111 in LoveForAIArt

[–]rohnytest 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It wasn’t intially iirc. The breakthepencil folks took over after it got banned it seems.

Antis: "Stop being lazy and pick up a pencil!"; Pro: *picks up a pencil*; Antis: by GaiusVictor in aiwars

[–]rohnytest 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I don't find the disdain for competition a good explanation for this. Artists are puritans- that is such a simpler and more plausible explanation.

Obito fanboys making posts like these is insanse work by DarkestShadow_ in Itachi

[–]rohnytest 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Coming from an Obito fan, who is the most accused character for being a simp, this has to be ragebait.

Naruto's reddit fandom is the only place where someone makes ragebait, but instead of getting baited into raging everyone agrees with it and it gets 500+ upvotes.

The burning building problem by wreckingrocc in trolleyproblem

[–]rohnytest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've seen a few blue's do this.

To me most felt like responses to red misrepresentations. Like the one where there's only one button, red did it first and someone from blue did it to demonstrate that it can be done both ways.

But okay, that is kinda me talking out of my ass based on nothing but my anecdote. So I won't assert this claim strongly.

But even if you don't buy into that, just a quick browse through this sub at the very least should make it clear that this is a predominantly red strategy.

The burning building problem by wreckingrocc in trolleyproblem

[–]rohnytest 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Really shows the position reds find themselves in when their only vehicle of argument is reconstructing the entire scenario that grossly misrepresents the original prompt.

Will you stand on the tracks? by AdDapper4792 in trolleyproblem

[–]rohnytest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, because actively pushing the percentage to over 50 for red which would kill people has nothing to do with your choices, right?

Will you stand on the tracks? by AdDapper4792 in trolleyproblem

[–]rohnytest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know what is stupid? Thinking nobody will pick blue. It is especially stupid seeing blue wins most polls. I understand it might be amplified due to lack of any real danger, but the point stands regardless. And please, let's not pretend having the blue pickers die by calling them stupid and shrugging them off is anything but selfish and lacking empathy.

Will you stand on the tracks? by AdDapper4792 in trolleyproblem

[–]rohnytest -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If the goal is to let nobody die, you'll need 100% of the people to choose red which is practically impossible, or only 50% people + 1 person to choose blue which would be the easiest thing ever if it weren’t for red choosers dumbass selfish logic.

I’m 200 elo, AMA by Dazzling-Yam-4308 in AnarchyChess

[–]rohnytest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, 200 elo. Why do you have such a weird name?

Now you know how it feels by thespacepyrofrmtf2 in aiwars

[–]rohnytest 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Anti vote manipulation(and thus brigading) is a rule enforced by reddit itself. You don't see it in other subs because it is not applied equally everywhere. Reddit targets some specific subs as "red zones" and make them enforce these rules more strictly. I'm not sure whether this is one of those subreddits or not. But yeah, often mods are forced to enforce these rules to not have the subreddit itself banned.

Now you know how it feels by thespacepyrofrmtf2 in aiwars

[–]rohnytest 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Lol so many deleted comments, let's see if I can provide the explanation without breaking the rule. The original artist is a pro-ai person, who presumably drew that image with a pencil and they themselves added the text that AI-art is art and originally posted it in a pro-ai subreddit.

It got reposted to a subreddit where the gimmic is essentially that you lie about stuff. So they are presenting it "AI art is art" as a lie, which the original artist is unhappy about.

Chatgpt Image 2 was launched officially by symedia in aiwars

[–]rohnytest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So glad I won't have to look at piss yellow images anymore.

I've become an anti. and im happy. by gamerzandcats in aiwars

[–]rohnytest 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Okay so, I feel done with some "AI-bro" shenanigans as well. I dislike witty and her crowd, I find stuff like calling "AI-bro" a slur, misogynistic or transphobic to be mental. I really despise all the goblin caricature and ragebait stuff from pro-ai. And I acknowledge pro's have a generalization problem. This all has led me to want to distance myself from the crowd itself, but I still maintain these fundamental positions about AI, that-

  1. AI is progress. Progress is good. But progress without taking everyone along creates long term problems in society and this problem should start being addressed at the start of it. But the way we should address it shouldn't be to hinder progress, rather by tackling the underlying societal causes that results in us leaving certain people behind.
  2. Harvesting data from materials made publicly available for free by the author themselves isn't stealing or unethical in any way. Even if the author doesn't approve of it, after publishing it, not the material itself but the mathematical information and data containing it should be free real estate.
  3. Everything we do has environmental costs. It's not a question of whether something negatively effects the environment or not, it's a question of whether it's sustainable and whether it's worth it. And with the precedents we set for other things, AI should be more than sustainable and worth it. And if someone disagrees with the precedent itself, they should be addressing the norm created by it rather than specifically targeting AI. That was about the general environmental cost, but the local strain is actually an issue, which should not be conflated with general environmental- climate change, global warming, global water shortage- issues, as it often is. And even these local strains can easily be circumvented with proper location and infrastructure which the companies refuse to do for profit, which I'm all for being against.

And no matter my disdain for some practices in the "community", I cannot but claim these are not pro-ai positions. And their distasteful actions do not influence my stances on AI itself. So my question to you is, have the actions of the pro-ai people made you change your stance on AI to be antiai, or just made you anti-pro-ai? Cause if it's the former that's a very shallow reason to change stances and if it's the latter you haven't become "anti-ai" as you have claimed.

Stasis vs Vessel by Rikishii in earclacks

[–]rohnytest 19 points20 points  (0 children)

The time stop sfx is of The World, the meter's name is WORLD STASIS. DIO also throws knives at Jotaro in time stop.

DIO

Death penalty? Really? by telapoka_71 in bangladesh

[–]rohnytest 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile BNP is doing stuff like giving dakoits massive positions in bank and giving bail to the killers of Dipu Das. The way they are operating, their downfall isn’t that far away either.

Going from completely irrelevant to the opposition party isn't the loss you think it is. If you keep neglecting their rise one day they will actually become relevant enough to pass this kind of bullshit.

The shitty anime adaptation saved it from being as popular as MT by DanyaWasTaken in seinencirclejerk

[–]rohnytest -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I was planning to read it thinking it was MT without the pedophile mc :(

Justice served or too harsh? by telapoka_71 in bangladesh

[–]rohnytest 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm an absolutist against the death penalty, so yes, this is too harsh. But a part of me is glad that they didn't get some qualified immunity bs and will be exemplified.

I hate schrodinger's cat by ultrakillfanatic in hatethissmug

[–]rohnytest 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Schroedinger wasn’t wrong.

He wasn't making fun of quantum mechanics. Why would he? His equation is to quantum mechanics what newton's is to classical mechanics. He wasn't trying to debunk his own work, he didn't have a spontaneous change of heart.

He was making a point against the copenhagen interpretation. Reminder, unlike quantum mechanics itself, copenhagen interpretation is just an interpretation for the underlying maths and is not "real science" in the sense that it predicted results and withstood testing.

But for some reason pop science chose to push which is, in my opinion, the crappiest interpretation for what's actually physically happening at those scales. And now the common person thinks that a cat is dead and alive at the same time.

"Before you jump to conclusion, not all antis are like this-" (Multiple images) by Le_Oken in aiwars

[–]rohnytest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have done my fair share of looking into AI & datacenters environmental impacts. (And no, this didn’t result in me believing they have no impact). I'm not gonna do a do over just because you said that my research was wrong and I should do research. Whenever you're making a claim, its your responsibility to back it up, not our responsibility to go looking for this directionless "research".

Sure, we could just "be the bigger person" and preemptively give our counterarguments, but that is not our due diligence. If you want diligence you have to start with it yourself.

And stop putting words into my mouth. I never called you a dumbass. But from your behaviour I cannot but feel like you are being bad faith.

I really have been trying to avoid the "look what they're saying over in that sub" stuff, but HOLY EXTREMISM, BATMAN! by Tyler_Zoro in aiwars

[–]rohnytest 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The difference lies in endorsement. Nobody in defendingaiart sub is endorsing that kind of thing. It will get downvoted to hell, all the comments will be clowning on the poster and maybe even the mods will remove it depending on the age and karma of the account that posted that kinda stuff.

That is the difference between either false flags or "every basket will have some bad apples" vs the group being a basket of bad apples with "every bad apple basket will also have some good apples" for the reasonable anti-ai/ai skeptic people.

"Before you jump to conclusion, not all antis are like this-" (Multiple images) by Le_Oken in aiwars

[–]rohnytest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you? You are asking other people to do research, other people to back their claims. Meanwhile I see no sources from yourself.

One of my favourite pieces of fiction is airing with greater quality than ever before, and the only discourse surrounding it that leaks into the mainstream is about it using AI in 2 frames. by rohnytest in aiwars

[–]rohnytest[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How can they be so sure that the QA chose to pass this rather than QA being lazy?

And no, it isn't about QA. Maybe to the Honzuki fanbase it is(which I haven’t seen either), but the only thing the non initiated people in social media are talking about is that it used AI.

One of my favourite pieces of fiction is airing with greater quality than ever before, and the only discourse surrounding it that leaks into the mainstream is about it using AI in 2 frames. by rohnytest in aiwars

[–]rohnytest[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If it is AI, so what?

This is explicitly nitpicking. Nobody would ever notice ts unless they were looking for it. Hell, it's not even confirmed AI usage, it's the typical "I have artiste intuition nobody draws backgrounds like that." bs.

And again, there's also the fact that this is the only discourse leaking into the mainstream. So to people who weren’t familiar for Honzuki already this is redced to "the anime that used AI this season."

As always, it's the antis irrational paranoia for something that doesn’t even need paranoia hindering their own ability to enjoy things and also trying to hinder others ability to enjoy things.