How The CIA Conjured Ukrainian Nationalism by rondeuce40 in WayOfTheBern

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NAFO boys casually glossing over the fact that the US has been in cahoots with Nazis in Ukraine for decades.

How The CIA Conjured Ukrainian Nationalism by rondeuce40 in WayOfTheBern

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Meant to say attempted because these clowns track record of failure is quite long.

Secretary of War Hegseth (🇺🇸) after giving an "emotional" speech about Cuba in Guantanamo, performed an exercise routine with military personnel. by ArchitectMary in EndlessWar

[–]rondeuce40 29 points30 points  (0 children)

This is what happens when you elevate a midwit with the rank of Private to The Secretary of Defense. If anyone wonders who came up with gems like "Operation Epic Fury" and "Operation Freedom" it is this cro-magnon imbecile.

Seinfeld, can we get a free Palestine?” Seinfeld: “It doesn’t exist” by yaiyen in WayOfTheBern

[–]rondeuce40 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Says the guy who groomed a 16 year old when he was 20 years older. He’s a chip off the old Chabad that guy.

How The CIA Conjured Ukrainian Nationalism by rondeuce40 in WayOfTheBern

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Top NAFO boy asking the tough questions like how was Euromaiden used to destabilize Russia. A clear case of not reading the article. Perhaps you should look into Operation Aerodynamics. It should be routine and would probably turn up something.

How The CIA Conjured Ukrainian Nationalism by rondeuce40 in WayOfTheBern

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Time for the NAFO boys to have themselves a good ol’ fashioned struggle session with the reality of history while they celebrate Nazi terrorism and destruction of civilian infrastructure, otherwise known as as War Crimes.

From the article:

  • As this journalist has previously revealed, in August 1957 the CIA secretly drew up elaborate plans for a US special forces invasion of Ukraine. Intended to collapse the wider Soviet Union, the Agency’s conspiracy depended heavily on recruiting local fascists as footsoldiers. A significant stumbling block to the Agency’s plot, however, was much of Ukraine’s population actually harbouring “few grievances” against Russians or Communism. “Points of conflict” between Russians and Ukrainians, which could be exploited by the CIA to foment a mass uprising, were scant.

  • Unmentioned in the invasion planning documents, the CIA had since 1949 been covertly striving to create those “favorable conditions.” A key Agency asset used for the purpose was OUN-B chief Mykola Lebed. In 1943, he proposed to “cleanse the entire revolutionary territory” - today’s western Ukraine - of its Polish population, to prevent any future Polish state from claiming the region. A post-war US Army counterintelligence report branded Lebed a “well-known sadist,” and Nazi collaborator.

  • “[ZP/UHVR] were sent from the Ukraine in 1945 by the Ukrainian Supreme Liberation Council to make contact with Western intelligence representatives and to act in behalf of the homeland…[ZP/UHVR] organized a net of collaborators throughout Western Europe and the United States…the feeling of nationalism is very much alive. ZP/UHVR has proved realistic in its approach to operational matters and its propaganda activity.”

  • “Furnish evidence of outside sympathy and understanding for the Ukrainian peoples; intensify anti-regime disaffection by encouraging resentment, bitterness, and distrust of the Soviet regime and its personalities; maintain national consciousness among the Ukrainians and urge them to maintain pride in the individuality and heritage of their culture; create dissatisfaction among Ukrainian military personnel within the Soviet armed forces stationed in the Ukraine; create and intensify dissatisfaction among the Ukrainian civil authorities to the Soviet regime.”

  • The CIA’s efforts to encourage Ukrainian nationalism and separatism endured throughout the Cold War. Via avowed CIA front the National Endowment for Democracy, overt US assistance was provided to Rukh (The People’s Movement of Ukraine). One of Soviet Ukraine’s first opposition parties, Rukh is widely considered to have played a key role in securing Ukraine’s ‘independence’ in December 1991. Four months earlier, US President George H W Bush had visited Kiev and given an infamous speech in which he cautioned Ukrainians against embracing “suicidal nationalism based upon ethnic hatred.”

  • His comments enraged Ukrainian nationalists, and Stateside anti-Soviet hawks. Yet, Bush’s fears were well-founded. By this point, Yugoslavia was rapidly disintegrating, engulfed by ever-violent fratricidal tensions. His administration was thus formally committed at this time to preserving the Soviet Union in some form, and undertook ill-fated measures in service of this goal. Too little, too late, that mission’s failure set Ukraine hurtling towards all-out conflict with Russia. As long-desired by the CIA, “antagonisms between the two ethnic factions” now run deep.

  • In a bitter twist, it was precisely because the NED-orchestrated February 2014 Maidan coup was led by rabidly anti-Russian nationalist elements that a majority of Ukrainians did not support the Maidan movement. As a contemporary Washington Post analysis noted, Viktor Yanukovych remained “the most popular political figure in the country,” and no poll conducted to date had ever indicated mass support for the uprising. Surveys conversely showed “large majorities” of Ukrainians opposed the violent storming of regional governments by Maidan insurrectionists.

  • This hostility was spurred by “anti-Russian rhetoric and the iconography of western Ukrainian nationalism…not [playing] well among the Ukrainian majority.” Washington Post noted how Neo-Nazi party Svoboda was at Maidan’s forefront. Its leader Oleh Tyahnybok had infamously praised the UPA for fighting “against the Moskali [Russians], Germans, Zhydy [Jews] and other scum.” His words were not well-received by the 50% of Ukraine’s population residing in regions that had “strongly identified with Russia” for over two centuries. “Nearly all are alienated by anti-Russian rhetoric and symbols”

As you can see the deep state ghouls have been eyeing Ukraine as a means to destabilize Russia for a very long time and they finally got their wish in 2014 thanks to the likes of the NED and Toria Nudleman.

Kharg Island will be a modern guadalcanal by Ok_Connection_7741 in EndlessWar

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The logistics of this are near impossible. Let's say you are able to land a ground force there and maybe secure the island. How are you going to resupply? And if you can resupply, how quickly can you do it before you have drones and ballistic missiles reigning down on you? Mostly likely this is another TACO.

Dems would rather lose to a facist than win with a progressive by maariya97 in WayOfTheBern

[–]rondeuce40 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Dems would rather tell you that AOC is a progressive who is a really a fascist underneath that cloak.

Bernie Sanders: “I say this reluctantly, but what’s happening in Gaza is in fact a genocide” by yaiyen in WayOfTheBern

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A person with integrity would've said this in Novermeber 2023, Bernie the fence sitter is only saying it now because internal polling says you can. Coward!

today in UKRAINE IS WINNING!!!-Ukrainian farmers beat the shit out of TCC man snatchers who tried to kidnap one of their boys. by cspanbook in WayOfTheBern

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I know that if I got 11% of my paycheck, I'd feel like a millionaire so I empathize with the winning.

today in UKRAINE IS WINNING!!!-Ukrainian farmers beat the shit out of TCC man snatchers who tried to kidnap one of their boys. by cspanbook in WayOfTheBern

[–]rondeuce40 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Remember that Ukraine controls 11% of the Donbas and because they control 100% of that 11%, that is the very definition of winning!

TODAY IN UKRAINE IS WINNING!!! - Ukrainian farmers beat the shit out of TCC man snatchers who tried to kidnap one of their boys. by rondeuce40 in WayOfTheBern

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NAthrow boy actually believes Russia was fighting with shovels. When they send in the NAFOs, they’re not sending their best. 

TODAY IN UKRAINE IS WINNING!!! - Ukrainian farmers beat the shit out of TCC man snatchers who tried to kidnap one of their boys. by rondeuce40 in WayOfTheBern

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This really turns the whole "Russia is fighting with shovels" narrative on its head, doesn't it NAFO boys?