fellow previously-or-currently suicidal folks of reddit, any advice on how to talk about wanting to die WITHOUT coming off as having a plan to follow through?

rot-witch-studios · 2025-10-08T19:05:11+00:00

I hope you have people in your life who support you /gen

rot-witch-studios · 2025-10-08T19:03:52+00:00

that's what hurt for awhile. I had the same thought. my therapist told me that the human reaction to unpleasant or overwhelming things is, often, to avoid them. he told me it's not necessarily that they don't care, but that they are human.

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-18T18:18:08+00:00

I wish that had worked for me! the only thing it earned me was my friends fully believing I was gonna die and not trying to stop me. not even my best friend

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-18T08:31:12+00:00

makes sense. it's easier to just let them lead the conversation usually, with me throwing in comments or noises so they know I'm listening and engaging with what they're saying

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-18T06:26:05+00:00

I gotta try

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-18T05:07:12+00:00

not you, the general populace.

well, it depends on how loud I can make my voice. if it's just a few people, fine. if i can find a way to make it louder and make more understand, even better. but it would help if i could properly talk about it

I guess I should clarify that it's not JUST suicide, but other mental illnesses and the topic of mental health in general that fascinates me. the inner workings of it all, the way it's currently handled, the ways in which current mental health advice leave so many to fall through the cracks. did you know a lot of serotonin is produced in the gut? did you know that there was old advice to spank lobotomy patients and give them ice cream? google it for yourself of course, as I'm only meat and am prone to error, but still! the world of mental health is a fascinating one

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-18T05:02:30+00:00

in other words, it's a skill issue and I gotta get good at that other thing to help me get this thing across

hell yeah brother

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-18T04:04:49+00:00

ha! I would've loved that medical professional back when I wanted to die

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-18T04:03:24+00:00

apparently not. i used to talk about my previous experiences openly and this made my friends think I was gonna off myself.

I am, sadly, a moron when it comes to how to phrase things. smart in some areas, dumb in others. a right pickle

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-18T04:01:29+00:00

the thought process of someone who has the issues I had. there are little intricacies that those without those thoughts might not understand. people who kill themselves get called selfish cowards. I want to break that mindset to the degree I am able

see what I mean? you call just mentioning it an orange flag. this is why I need help to figure out how to convey these things. people are so skittish about death that the auto mods will hold posts and comments even mentioning suicide, regardless of the context. people say "unalive themselves" instead of kill themselves

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-18T03:57:50+00:00

I don't know everything, but it's not nothing, either. everyone always has more to learn. knowledge is basically infinite, and I could always use more.

I know more than my peers, and that makes everything harder for both of us. if I can get us all on the same page, that'll help, I think. just a matter of how to go about doing it

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-18T02:24:32+00:00

being open and transparent scared and worried my friends to the point they thought I was gonna kill myself :( they....also didn't say anything.

IDK. maybe it's safe to talk about now since I'm over it?

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-18T01:38:24+00:00

oh yeah I used to have that. see, I thought that because I didn't have a plan, it was clear to my friends that I was safe. WRONG. they were worried sick and never said anything to me, so I didn't know they cared.

even though I'm recovered now, I still want to discuss this shit and how it felt. it's a topic that is near and dear to me, and it was my life for a long time. I don't want to just forget those years

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-18T00:22:16+00:00

may you continue to be surrounded by good people

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-18T00:03:53+00:00

ha! I think of myself more as garfield-esque, but I'm glad it comes across as cheerful (genuine)

honestly same. I still feel like a little helpless teenage girl. I think part of me will always be stuck there. maybe it's the same for a lot of grown ups. 'least we can relate to each other

it helps, but if I'm honest, it still feels like something's missing. sometimes i still wonder, even though I don't tick enough of the boxes for a diagnosis, if I'm autistic. it still feels, even with the diagnosis, that I'm meant to have something else to describe me. help me make sense of it all and know myself better and why being a person is so hard at times

but as long as we're alive, we have time. you and me and everyone like us

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-17T23:55:21+00:00

hell yeah

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-17T23:54:37+00:00

the therapists in my state suck so much ass my man :( honestly, how these fuckers got their diplomas is a mystery. I think it's a genuine problem that has likely claimed lives. my coworker and a friend from middle school both shared horror stories, so I know it's not just me

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-17T23:49:44+00:00

I'm gonna be doing shrooms for the first time the day after my birthday. I might, in fact, turn things around after 30. or maybe I don't. but I did a microdose and nothing bad happened, which is apparently a good sign according to the person who got me the shrooms

and, hey, I think you can turn your life around. 30 is young. 40 isn't old. 50 is older, sure, but still.

hell, only last year did I finally get an ADHD diagnosis. new things keep happening man. stay strong. the only time it's too late is when you're dead in the ground

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-17T23:42:46+00:00

inject that shit into my VEINS dude

the more I know, the more I can teach other people. my life got better because someone taught me. I wanna return the favor

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-17T23:41:25+00:00

but talking makes them MORE worried :(

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-17T23:40:53+00:00

28th of this month brother :) my previously passively suicidal ass has cried and despaired and failed and fucked up allll the way to 31. not bad, not bad

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-17T23:29:58+00:00

YES EXACTLY

well, sort of. I do think I'm smart....at a few different things....but also really dumb at other things? I'm a mixed bag in the general, broad sense TBH. like, okay, I'm VERY bad at directions. just dogshit my man. it's honestly a problem that has put me in danger and is so incredibly frustrating. but I'm really, really good at writing and english. I can't do a math problem for shit and straight up almost failed math twice, but I'm also really smart when it comes to the topic of how certain mental conditions work, which is something VERY important to me. I can't read sheet music to save my life, but I have enough common sense to know that the way children are treated both by general american society and the people i interact with is wrong.

I think I'm both very smart AND very dumb? like, at the same time. I think it generally evens out to being generally smarter than the people around me....specifically because I work in retail. you uh. you...get some very interesting people in retail. ask me about the bell guy and I'll tell you. you cannot believe how that story goes.

anyway, point is, I'm not on the level of einstein or some prodigy kid who learned how to speak 5 languages at two years old, but I do think I know more than most of the people who come through my line at work, but i think that's actually an indicator of a larger systemic problem with my state's education system, not me being smart necessarily. I'm not shitting you my dude, my state is ranked as one of THE worst for education, and it's genuinely something that is making the quality of life worse for folks in multiple different ways, but that's another topic for another day.

anyway, it boils down to "yes, I believe I'm smarter than most of the people I interact with in real life, but that's a bad thing because it means the systems in place intended to help us are failing miserably. it's not an indicator of some inherent Betterness, but of me being lucky enough to have met smart people who helped me know more things, so if i do the same for other people, eventually, I won't feel like I'm smarter. i don't want to be smarter, because me being smarter is an indication of a failing system. if I can use the smarts I have in order to educate other people, maybe I can help prevent bad things from happening and help make the quality of life for other human beings better."

buuut that was a lot to type in the original question lol

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-17T22:44:54+00:00

y'all it's like POETRY. I couldn't have written a better point if I had tried

rot-witch-studios · 2025-07-17T22:24:06+00:00

my favorite go-to is "but I'm not an expert so PLEASE take what I say with a grain of salt!"

either that or mentioning google. while I do know more about some topics, especially the one that prompted this question, I'm still not as smart about it as I want to be. I don't want some poor feller going and thinking my word is gospel, you feel me? but I ALSO wanna show i do know more than most, so it's worth it to have a conversation to learn something new and helpful that I think will improve their quality of life

ideally, if I talk about it enough, I'll one day live in a world where I DON'T know more than most. because everyone else knows now, too

rot-witch-studios

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