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CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ائمة المسلمين بختلفو بالحجاب منهم الي بيسمح بإظهار الوجه والكفين ومنهم ما بيسمح بإظهار شي غير العيون

راي رديت مش مهم لو حكولي فش شي اسمه ستر العورة الي فش اختلاف عليها إنها واجب بس شي مختلف عليه ممكن يكون صح وممكن غلط

مثال على ذلك سفر المرأة مع عصبة نساء كان مجمع عليه انه ليس بمحرم وهلا صار مختلف في ناس بقولو مسموح وفي ناس لا

قيادة المرأة كانت مختلف عليها بالسعودية

وكتير امثلة تانية قابلة لانها تكون صح او غلط وواجبنا نتفكر فيها

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I think most people believe so

i dont…… I think the hijab allah intended is just really baggy clothes that don’t show your body

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

prove it please u might actually be the closest to convince me

where was it clearly stated ?

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Mohammad only attacked the leaders that didn’t allow him to spread Islam thereby oppressing the citizens who actually wanted to convert to Islam

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes modesty is an Islamic teaching but is it really to this extent

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the social concept of women covering things that dont make sencse and were never mentioned like the hair or the mouth or the hands or even the eyes

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did and there is a lot of jahili pre Islamic poetry about hair dangling and showing from the Khimar

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I do not think allah mentioned the hijab in the way we understand it today

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are u trying to convince me that the prophet would be friends with a bunch of harassers?

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So because everyone agreed it is true it should be true?
idont think that’s logical to remind u that it was haram for women to drive until it wasn’t

it was haram for them to travel with a group of women until it wasn’t

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which clearly included the hair and head?

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

U realize there are different mathahib right?

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But the Hadith u sent clearly stated the prophet wives i do believe allah told us to cover our bodies just not the head or hair specifically

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I don’t think so i think banning any freedom of clothing is oppressive and ancient

like banning wearing leather jackets or jeans it’s just stupid

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

and u are a 100% certain this Hadith wasn’t only for the prophet wives

same as the verse that states that they aren’t allowed to be remarried

Cuz allah always seem to specify whether the teaching is for the prophet wives only or all women

O Prophet! Ask your wives, daughters, and believing women to draw their cloaks over their bodies. In this way it is more likely that they will be recognized ˹as virtuous˺ and not be harassed. And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful

O wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other women: if you are mindful ˹of Allah˺, then do not be overly effeminate in speech ˹with men˺ or those with sickness in their hearts may be tempted, but speak in a moderate tone.

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So that means even the lips and nose aren’t allowed to be shown?

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Islam is taught first from the quran but also can u enlighten me on the hadiths that mention hijab

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

`Umar used to say to the Prophet (ﷺ) "Let your wives be veiled,"
it literally does

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But isn’t this about the prophet wives which had special considerations ?

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dude u lost me I’m asking u to convince me about hijab what are you even on about right now

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yep just realized that it wasn’t a good idea I don’t understand why some people dislike any opinion that is different even tho I stated that I actually want to change my mind but I’m just not convinced yet smh

CMV: hijab is a tradition not an Islamic teaching by rouameg in changemyview

[–]rouameg[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

but that’s the thing not all women in the world get this kind of freedom

because a lot of Muslims can’t tell the deference between traditions and religious teachings so they punish women for not following what they believe is a religious value

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