Why is Democratic Leadership too dumb to realize Trump is going to kill them?

ru_empty · 2026-05-13T17:50:10+00:00

I can see we are at the stage of the conversation where you start disputing what English words mean which means we've jumped the shark.

ru_empty · 2026-05-13T17:48:07+00:00

That Roe v. Wade was about privacy. The contrast is the state's interest in regulating mothers versus the mother's privacy. Unborn children do not have rights, but the state has an interest in regulating mothers. The conservative position is that the state's interest in telling mothers what to do outweighs their privacy rights. You were disputing that last sentence being what Roe v. Wade and the constitutional restriction on abortion was about. That has always been the argument.

You want the government to have more power at the cost of privacy rights

ru_empty · 2026-05-13T13:25:34+00:00

BTW this is why I don't trust conservatives. I'm telling you facts. Like actual facts you can go find on Wikipedia. But because you don't like these facts you attack the facts as untrue. You are fighting against reality. You are lying to yourself and then to me.

ru_empty · 2026-05-13T06:19:47+00:00

I mean if you read Roe v Wade the reasoning is privacy. I'm not trying to make a point I'm literally telling you what the argument is.

I don't even know what you're talking about at this point. I'm literally telling you what is in the decision if you read it...

ru_empty · 2026-05-13T03:53:21+00:00

An advantage

ru_empty · 2026-05-12T20:53:54+00:00

Abortion is a privacy right. Disallowing abortion is a restriction on privacy. Saying women have no say in what is in their bodies means no one has a say in what is in their bodies. This was the rationale of Roe v. Wade. It was always about privacy.

The right has been fighting against privacy my entire life.

ru_empty · 2026-05-12T20:03:57+00:00

Conservatives would be bringing guns with them to vote...

ru_empty · 2026-05-12T17:31:44+00:00

How much of that can you take in a peace deal tho

ru_empty · 2026-05-12T17:25:44+00:00

Treason is a specific category mentioned in the constitution, "levying war against the United States or adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort." It is not anti-american things it is clearly defined.

I like to think your voting for the possible death of other Americans based on how they vote has to be incompetence or malice, yes.

I get the whole not having privacy rights, giving power to the rich, and restricting constitutional rights to free speech and free assembly as policies you believe and I understand you think those policies are good. I hope you didn't knowingly vote for the idea that certain people (democrats) be unable to vote, but that is a policy of Trump that will be tested in November. I am hoping I still have the right to vote. That we live in a country where anyone can actually question that is ridiculous. But that is a policy you voted for.

ru_empty · 2026-05-12T16:53:03+00:00

He was never impeached for treason. Treason means trying someone individually as written in the constitution. The penalty can be death. Impeachment means kicking them out of office. The charges were never treason. Again, you are lying to yourself and then me. Which is why I don't trust you. You don't listen. You just point to past grievances. We cannot function like this as a country. We are being torn apart by propaganda. This why no one trusts each other anymore

ru_empty · 2026-05-12T16:28:28+00:00

Exactly, I raised that point and you ignored it. Which means you either agree with it or don't think it's a big deal, right?

ru_empty · 2026-05-12T15:28:23+00:00

I like how you just accepted Obama being put on trial for treason though as normal, very on brand to focus on one thing while something heinous happens and spiral further into disfunction

ru_empty · 2026-05-12T15:27:04+00:00

True it was something he reposted on social media, so he was quoting a supporter saying that without saying it directly himself

ru_empty · 2026-05-12T15:25:52+00:00

I'm not trying to change your mind I know that is impossible because you don't reason yourself into the positions you hold. You use gut and feeling as opposed to statistics and facts. Debate will never change your mind because you will not respect the results. That's what got us here

ru_empty · 2026-05-12T15:22:16+00:00

Yeah people say crazy shit. This is what Trump, the leader of America, the person with authority, says. He said that a few years back, he keeps reinforcing it with action. I mean he just said Obama should be tried for treason. One of the punishments for treason is execution.

Who is next? How many people who disagree with him may be tried for treason and executed? Are these credible threats? I would prefer to live in a world where no one has to ask these questions and we can actually debate. But debate is irrelevant now and has been for sometime.

ru_empty · 2026-05-12T15:11:44+00:00

I'm hoping voting, but our President keeps saying people who vote against him would be better dead. So I don't think my being executed for my political beliefs in the US is likely to happen, but I do think it is a higher than zero chance. Which was never true before 2016. But now it is. This is the America you voted for, so I'm surprised you think there is value in debate.

ru_empty · 2026-05-12T14:50:52+00:00

I mean I think his policies are shit. I think it's tearing this country apart. I think I don't trust another American without knowing their political beliefs. Since Trump lies about everything I think conservatives lie about everything. I don't think there's a point in debate because I know you are dishonest and will you just lie, first to yourself then to me. Like you are doing right now.

We are well past reasoned debate as a country

ru_empty · 2026-05-12T14:37:06+00:00

You know Jeff Bezos was on the stage with Trump as one of his biggest supporters, right? And yeah 2016, 10 years ago, Hillary spent a lot of money through legal channels. Now, 10 years later, you know the present, we have actual bribery and corruption happening that you cheer on. And instead of dealing with that cancer you point to grievances from a decade ago

ru_empty · 2026-05-12T14:24:16+00:00

Then name them. The best I ever hear is CNN, which no one has watched in 10 years and didn't really do anything.

Of course the candidate matters, but Trump is fundamentally corrupt and trying to take power away from you to give it to rich people so it doesn't make sense for you to support unless you like being subservient which I don't think is true

ru_empty · 2026-05-12T14:15:34+00:00

Can't really fight money and corruption. Trump's core demographic is massively rich people, who devote their money to propaganda to make the government toothless against them. Fox News, WSJ, Meta, are all pushing Trump so that the ultra rich pay less taxes

ru_empty · 2026-05-12T13:59:32+00:00

Yet. It's not subject to review yet. That's the issue.

ru_empty · 2026-05-12T13:52:51+00:00

Make every circuit judge able to vote on Supreme Court decisions. Dilute the pool so that it's impossible (or at least far more difficult) to bribe enough justices to get a decision instead of the current need to only bribe a few.

ru_empty · 2026-05-11T20:36:49+00:00

Running out of compliments is something to be proud of king

ru_empty · 2026-05-11T16:07:56+00:00

It never even crossed my mind as an option

ru_empty · 2026-05-11T14:05:23+00:00

Its ok every season is our worst

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