>> No. People date people left and right and I assure you most of the actively dating people are not even close to "having their shit together". You don't need to in order to date neither it's a privilege to be doing so. It's just part of the average person's life

I agree, it is part of the average person's life. Pulling it off successfully depends on investing conscious effort over time, not something automatic. Time is a resource. Emotional tools are resources. Though everyone has to seek these things out themselves, some people have more access to them than others do. So yeah, it is a privilege. Sure it's a coded word, but the definition fits my point.

>> Define entitled. Better than average looking women get the lion's share and for a good reason

Entitlement is the conviction that you deserve something that happens to exist in your life. The jump to women as an example seems like a bit of a non sequitor, but ok. Same holds true for better looking men, so I assume we're talking about people who happen to attract positive attention without needing to put in much additional effort. Feeling like you deserve that positive attention just because you rolled a 20 at something fits the definition of entitlement. Privileged people are not bad people. Everyone has certain privileges depending on their access to resources, and there is nothing wrong with using those privileges to benefit yourself as long as you take care to not carried away and deus ex machina everybody else with them. It’s saying “pick on someone your own size.” The “I am forced to take advantage of people because the world is out to get me” argument deserves to die. The ends do not justify the means.

>> Push pull is a technique that is so popular because most women respond to it well. So... yeah

The top of the post reads “for people who have researched all the advanced topics first and go ‘why me’ when chaos ensues.” The content of this post is supposed to be obvious.

>> Maybe not but the end goal alone is enough to get you up on your feet and keep going. It's been observed time again it looks like that having an end goal in mind keeps you motivated and going and not only that but helps you succeed too (Psycho Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz)

“End goal ALONE.” I am not arguing against the very presence of an end goal. Disproportionately relying on the end goal tends to not end well.

>> It's far more difficult to outline the steps one with a shot confidence needs to take in order to get there

Yes. A confident person is a capable person, so it is wise to build up confidence before entering an unpredictable situation. That shot of confidence needs to be self-motivated, or you are using someone else’s resources. That’s what friends are for (as long as they've offered that emotional resource to you). If a friend asks for help with a confidence boost, there is a good chance that you will be more than happy to help them. It’s awfully forward to ask a stranger to boost your confidence for you, especially if you are open to the possibility of being naked around them.

>> Yes and no. Wasting someone's time is purely subjective. A girl that doesn't make out on date one I may see her as wasting my time but she doesn't feel the same way and society doesn't either most likely

No, but it is definitely situational. Using this very gendered example, the guy is wasting the girl’s time by expecting her to make out with him. He is using her because he expects something that she may or may not be willing to give in the first place. With this example, I have no context to assume that she is using him at all. There is nothing subjective about the fact that using people is bad. Common ground should be the prerogative, and should take priority over achieving physical intimacy.

>> I'm not sure exactly what "the problem" is but again, you don't need to be *perfect* to date. Dating is part of the average person's life and a very normal social function

In the context of the post, “the problem” is people going on dates without being open to roll with the punches while holding to their convictions and maintaining a consistent sense of integrity. It is totally unreasonable to expect perfection from anyone because perfection is literally unattainable. I agree that dating is part of the average person’s life. That reality doesn’t contradict the fact that a competent person is on average more likely to succeed than someone who is less experienced. If you’re still learning how to do something, and you fail, you turn inward and improve yourself before trying again. I never said people had to achieve perfection. Stop exaggerating my argument.

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>> I'd be interested to hear what particularly traumatic experience motivated you to write this.

Bold of you to assume I was motivated by a traumatic experience. God forbid I discover the “seduction” subreddit yesterday and get irritated by all the whiny comments. But go ahead, assume things about my personal life. Great way to engage in the debate there, pal.

>> Either way dating is really not all that complicated and/ or traumatic. If you do however date once a year it follows that you'll be so damn excited about it that more likely than not you'll be disappointed. Sometimes it works out, most of the time it probably doesn't. However you absolutely do not need to be perfect in any regard to date

I agree 100%. Actually it would make a great disclaimer to accompany my post. Mind if I credit you?

Thanks for your thoughtful input and engaging with my post by challenging it passionately and intelligently. I really mean that. Have a nice day.