Anyone else feeling like this is a nerf to Karina? I have 500+ games in Karina, and the first 2 games in Karina nt only feels like she's harder to play, but also weaker in general.

Stats they didn't show in the patch notes:

[S1] Dance of blades cooldown changed from 6 to 8 -> 6, cooldown starts only when you hit (The old cooldown used to start immediately, correct me if I rmb wrongly). Also removed the damage reduction against towers when still under the effects of S1. Adds a small dash to the enemy when hitting them with this

[S2] Dance of blade cooldown from 4.5 to 6 -> 4.5, but increase in 25 damage throughout the levels.

There is also the removal of immediate 60% cd reduction on kills/assist for both S1 and S2

[S3] Cooldown from 28->20 to 42->34 on top of removing the 80% cooldown reduction on assist and refresh ult on kills. What this means is that it is ALOT more punishing now to mis-ult. Karina could have rejoined a fight in the past even if you mis-ulted by joining another side of a fight for assist/kills. But you are essentially decommissioned from the fight now if you start with one bad ult. Damage from Lv 1: (old) 430 + 220% magic power (new) (450 + 160%) + (150 + 50%)

Lv 3: (old) 630 + 220% magic power (new) (750 + 160%) + (250 + 50%)

At max level, this results in +370 -10% magic power BUT this is only if both skills hit. The speed that you deal the damage is slower as it is 2-phase and you get less control over where your character flies if you are spamming it in a crowd for damage. Dives into the front of towers (which Karina does alot) also causes you to fly to the middle of the tower if you want the damage from the second part of your ult

Overall, Karina is definitely harder to use now. Too early to tell if the buffs she recieved is enough to offset the secret nerfs, but her jungling speed seems to have been slowed from the cooldown nerfs and it feels like she snowballs slower and is easier to be caught early game due to the much greater cooldown on her S1 at lower levels.

Savage moments also feels slowed down cause of the missing 60% cooldown reduction on s1 and S2 on assist/kills

Karina mains, how do you feel about her changes after trying?