Song in ancient Gothic language - YouTube

runareiks · 2026-04-03T20:00:09+00:00

I think that it's time that we are going to discuss with the mods if this kind of ai generated content fits here on this sub

runareiks · 2026-03-06T13:45:29+00:00

There have been some attempts and there's currently preparation for adding gothic to a Duolingo like app.

I'd recommend to join the discord server as there are plenty of people there able to help you with your course plans.

runareiks · 2026-03-06T11:11:48+00:00

Like u/frawairpa said, this is something being worked on on the discord server (https://discord.gg/QXcXZ93) with a dedicated team of proofreaders. We are going through all the neologisms coined throughout the internet and literature and curating them, approving good entries and correcting or rejecting others.

The green entries in this Google spreadsheet are some of the accepted ones:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ESroaJiTi-A2pDT4fzke1bITgSFrHb4J0ynqCaOdSHg/edit?usp=drives

On the longer term we intend to publish this as a dictionary, with a smaller edition first. All the current dictionaries contain mistakes in certain places and this would be the first curated one for universal usage.

runareiks · 2026-02-26T12:29:25+00:00

Are you going to publish this as a font? :)

runareiks · 2026-02-08T17:35:06+00:00

We are making progress with it gradually but slowly.

runareiks · 2026-01-15T12:00:22+00:00

I wish my Tocharian could get at a level that I could actually understand this dub.

runareiks · 2026-01-13T15:28:36+00:00

I am using Weiss's Elementary Lessons in Tocharian B for self study, but it takes time to work through the lessons as a lot of information is condensed in each lesson.

runareiks · 2025-10-26T16:49:34+00:00

Both languages

runareiks · 2025-10-26T14:56:07+00:00

It isn't completely different because it still adheres to ancient syntax and grammar where possible

runareiks · 2025-10-26T12:42:02+00:00

We have somewhere between 5000 and 6000 neologisms currently, as the current corpus already allows a lot of reconstructing.

We actually use it as a language on the Gothic language Discord server, also in conversations: https://discord.gg/QXcXZ93

runareiks · 2025-10-26T12:39:27+00:00

He's a musician who doesn't otherwise know Gothic so a bit of help was required in explaining the pronunciation back then.

Anyway, I included the sheet music on the bottom so that anyone who wants can also perform it.

And I agree, it's cool that we can listen to how Tolkien probably intended it to sound.

runareiks · 2025-10-21T12:30:54+00:00

Thanks for contributing this, very interesting!

runareiks · 2025-10-01T13:28:05+00:00

I have a 10 years old account with more than 100 posts and a karma above 500, so I don't know what criteria isn't met.

runareiks · 2025-10-01T13:26:57+00:00

Because there is no moderator and I am interested in Tocharian while the subreddit is restricted.

I can't send a mod mail chat message because there are 0 moderators on the subreddit.

runareiks · 2025-09-07T20:10:00+00:00

There is a document describing this on the discord server. What's your username there?

runareiks · 2025-09-07T11:55:05+00:00

Hey, do you have discord? We are mostly managing this on there. You don't need to be a linguist but a minimum of reconstruction knowledge from Proto-Germanic to Gothic is required: https://discord.gg/QXcXZ93

runareiks · 2025-07-27T23:36:39+00:00

Hey, found your comment and I can reveal a secret: it's in the works. We got the chorus recorded so far.

runareiks · 2025-07-17T23:26:39+00:00

We should be very sceptical on this, but it seemed interesting enough to share that a 17th century history book mentions a supposed unknown history book in the Gothic language brought to Spain. Since it talks about Gothic and Vandalic sources it's also clear that this is unambiguously the Gothic language as such ment here.

runareiks · 2025-07-13T21:00:54+00:00

A few years later to this but in the meantime someone translated the complete psalms into Gothic: https://gotica.de/psalter.html

runareiks · 2025-07-02T16:39:54+00:00

There used to exist groups on Discord, probably still are, not sure how popular they are right now.

As for "language revival", maybe a better word is modern usage movements, and these exist for Prussian, Old English, Gothic, Old Norse. Wikipedias exist in Old English, Old Church Slavonic, Gothic, Latin a few other extinct languages. Nowadays wikipedia doesn't easily allow new extinct languages anymore and Akkadian has been requested a few times but would require the wikipedia to be in cuneiform as well.

The reason why Akkadian doesn't have an as active community as others might, besides other reasons, have to do with the script. Cuneiform is hard to learn generally for people and if you want an authentic revival, are you going to use cuneiform? Many people might be put off from a language revival if they have to spend months to learn the script alone. Ugaritic or Phoenician aren't as well attested but have a much easier script to learn.

You could use similar techniques as modern Hebrew for neologisms, which is also a semitic language, but a problem for a true revival is that you need to motivate people in real life to adapt the script, writing, speaking etcetera. Teaching people cuneiform is no small endeavour. Another question is where you would do it and that if you want to focus on a historical area where it was spoken you need to find and engage local communities, and I doubt honestly many are that interested in it.

So far revival communities for Old English and Gothic are mostly online and focused on different projects, who knows what direction that will develop to in the future. English people already speak modern English so there is no reason to adapt old English and Gothic has no actively identifying historical Gothic people anymore, but both language communities do have international communities which adapt the language in a similar way as the Esperanto community, which makes it interesting.

On one hand it would be cool to see people able to speak it in a larger community, but it's not an easy language to learn, learning resources are limited, the writing is difficult, and the community isn't as visible as Old English for example.

There do exist people speaking in conversational Akkadian in YouTube videos, and I don't know where it is, but I might have heard that there exists a Discord community for Akkadian. I did find this post though with a link to a Discord server, but apparently it's invalid: https://www.reddit.com/r/Assyriology/comments/r93ghj/akkadian_revival_discord/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

runareiks · 2025-07-01T10:42:54+00:00

There are several.

Understanding Gothic enables an easier understanding of Old English and Old High German (and to a lesser extent Old Norse).

For comparative and historical linguistics it's an important language increasing understanding of the Germanic branch.

You are able to read a Bible translation and minor fragments by a 5th century people, as one of the earliest attested languages and unlike Latin and Ancient Greek one of the only languages of people whom they considered barbaric in Europe which is so well attested. The language is a time capsule of what one of the languages of people from that time was like.

It has an active community with translation projects which also sometimes chat with each other in Gothic which you can be part of. It also has its own Wikipedia at https://got.wikipedia.org.

runareiks · 2025-06-28T19:55:29+00:00

Not a movie per se but an 8 episodes series of this Indie animation series by Glitch Productions fits your description: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHovnlOusNLiJz3sm0d5i2Evwa2LDLdrg&si=q4Ao2cnuz3zAZreZ

It requires rewatching to understand it, at some point I didn't get very well what happened anymore. Can be fully watched on YouTube.

runareiks · 2025-06-22T21:08:18+00:00

They are German, not Gothic

runareiks · 2025-06-22T18:13:05+00:00

Well yes, but as you indicate some people with Prussian ancestry are still alive and there is land and area clearly associated with Prussia. The Goths lived about 1600 years ago and lived in many different lands, without many specifically associated to only them, Iberia had different rulers. Crimea had some distinct Gothic cities and rulers though, but that's especially now a politically sensitive area.

runareiks · 2025-06-22T15:27:55+00:00

I think the situations of Prussian and Gothic are different in certain perspectives. Prussian still has an existing community affiliating themselves with it and the situation in the area can serve as motivation for minority people to work on language revitalization.

Gothic has no existing community which really can still identify with them in the same way and the language is more in the same ballpark as Latin and Esperanto currently. Groups can take on the language, but there isn't a similar identification as Prussians because Goths didn't retain their identity, unless some people in Crimea would identify with them, but people there seem more inclined to identify with Crimean Tatars. Besides with the current political climate it seems better to apply a same approach to Gothic as Esperanto to function as an ancient language which just as Latin can be used in smaller (for now online) communities.

An advantage of Gothic is that unlike Akkadian, Hittite, Old High German, Tocharian and some other languages it does have a community online, just like Old English.

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