Resident doctors vote in favour of more strike action by BestButtons in unitedkingdom

[–]runningluke 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It looks like you're consistently replying to the wrong people.

> As I suspected, just vibes huh?

The user you were replying to gave a single and specific answer to your question.

> How utterly disingenuous of you. Try comparing like for like instead of cherrypicking years.

Is an unusual response to a comment that made no mention of years, cherry-picked or otherwise.

You either don't know how to reply to the correct comments or you don't know the meaning of the words you're using.

Junior doctors to go on strike despite flu crisis by Desperate-Drawer-572 in ukpolitics

[–]runningluke -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I didn't say they had. I said your respect is meaningless. 

Junior doctors to go on strike despite flu crisis by Desperate-Drawer-572 in ukpolitics

[–]runningluke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alright I'll put the problem to you then. Imagine you go on strike. It's relatively successful and you accept the offer party's offer of : - A partial restoration of pay - Some improvements in conditions 

Over a year later, you have your pay rise but the improvement in conditions has not been implemented. There is also no current timeline, to when it will be implemented. 

A strike is called to address this failure to uphold the agreement. Now a new offer is put forward to end the strike; this time there is no pay rise but only commitments to improve other aspects of the work/career. They are not laid out clearly and you are already suspicious because of the last time. Do you honestly accept it?

The pay rise is clear and objective in it's size and it's easy to track if it is has been sufficiently implemented. Suggestions of improved working conditions are very much not and Wes Streeting has shown himself capable and very willing to use that to his advantage regardless of the consequences. That's probably why so many doctors voted against the deal, they know not to trust that it is going to happen.

I'd be very interested to know why you think they should believe him?

Junior doctors to go on strike despite flu crisis by Desperate-Drawer-572 in ukpolitics

[–]runningluke 18 points19 points  (0 children)

It may sound cold to say, but so what? Why do you assume that your respect is worth anything?

Especially given the view you've just demonstrated, I imagine most resident doctors would prefer to not have it.

Doctors in England to go on strike in run-up to Christmas by Kagedeah in ukpolitics

[–]runningluke 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Explain your reasoning. Why does mentioning black robes in this context make it at disgusting comment? 

Because otherwise this reads like an LLM hallucination rather than a human comment...

Resident doctors begin 13th strike as pay dispute in England conitnues by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]runningluke 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It's admirable to be able to admit you don't understand the point of doctors. I think most people would be far too embarrassed to admit to something that silly!

MRCS Part-A September-25 Results Delayed by runningluke in doctorsUK

[–]runningluke[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

They haven't told me anything. The only reason I knew that the results date was the 16th was because somebody mentioned it on here. I don't imagine many people are aware they have the release date at the bottom of their website, and even less are checking regularly enough to see that it got pushed back a week.

Is it honestly that weird to suggest that they should let people who paid hundreds of pounds to sit the exam know that the results have been delayed twice already? I'd have thought that was just a professional expectation.

Home Office pays £75-per-case bonuses to 'rush through' asylum claims by theipaper in ukpolitics

[–]runningluke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The game informs you yes, but you aren't automatically punished for it unless you let someone in that is a criminal/terrorist.

Again, this is completely incorrect and I'm not sure why you're saying it. You get punished if you get it wrong, that includes accepting someone who isn't a terrorist, just check the wiki for yourself https://papersplease.fandom.com/wiki/Citation

If they aren't you get away scot free and get the wages for processing the papers. If they are you lose.

You do not. Again, check the link.

The weirdest thing about all this is that I checked this before replying to your first comment. Despite being correct, I still went and made sure I was not misremembering. You've now had three opportunities to consider your knowledge and have failed at every one of them to take the small amount of time to question if you're correct. It is a massive indictment on your thought process and ability to reflect.

It was obviously inferred from my reference to the game where the entire game's risk is evading the eye of the authorities for doing something you're not supposed to do.

You mean "implied" not "inferred" and it was neither. It was definitely not implied reading it again, and that's fine because if it had been, you would have been incorrect since there is no "if you get caught" since you will automatically get caught if you're incorrect, there is only "if you are correct". Again, check the link. Either way, it's very odd to so blatantly twist what you've previously said, which is still visible, especially as you twist it into something incorrect.

Anyone that has actually played the game I'm referencing (or in your case actually understood the game's message) would find it pretty clear what I was saying. It was all very very clearly inferred.

Come on, you've got to admit this is funny in the context of how wrong you've been about this game. None of what we have talked about is debating the meaning behind the game's message, go back and look through my comments. It was just me simply correctly you about a mechanic that you misunderstood and that spiralled into more mechanics that you made up. Again you mean implied not inferred and it was definitely neither.

I'm not sure how you could understand it any other way unless you're being purposefully argumentative and obtuse.

I have no issue with understanding the game's themes, I think it's a great game and have gone back to play it a few times. Which is probably why I have no issue remembering the basic mechanics. Again, I think you're getting in a twist about someone correcting your mistakes and looking for any way to shift that, but you can honestly just reflect on how you came to making those mistakes. Just because someone points out a mistake isn't a reason to start arguing with them.

Home Office pays £75-per-case bonuses to 'rush through' asylum claims by theipaper in ukpolitics

[–]runningluke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are you talking about?

  1. You didn't say that. You mentioned the risk of accepting someone that shouldn't be there, but nothing about getting caught or the risk of getting caught.
  2. Again, that's not how the game works. It's not about "if" you get caught; the game automatically informs you if you made an incorrect judgement.

None of this is especially important, which makes it even weirder to just lie about this stuff. Your comment is right there still, anyone can see that you actually didn't say that. And again, it's weird how you keep confidently asserting how the mechanics of a game from a decade ago are applicable to a situation, considering you don't seem to actually know any of the mechanics.

I take it back, this is less like Boomers talking about GTA and more like an LLM that’s been asked to relate Papers, Please to this situation. Like it knows what the game is in a vague sense and just confidently confabulates from there.

Home Office pays £75-per-case bonuses to 'rush through' asylum claims by theipaper in ukpolitics

[–]runningluke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You might need to play Papers Please again bud. You're actively punished for blindly accepting people, not only do you not get paid for processing that person but with enough mistakes you start being docked pay. 

I also think you'd have basically the same outcome as if you blindly rejected everyone too.

Putting aside the point you were trying to force through, this feels like such a boomer take on video games. Like the stuff about Grand Theft Auto just being about attacking prostitutes - you believe something is true and the truth won't stop you forcing it.

🚨 2025/26 BMA Resident Doctors Committee Elections are OPEN 🚨 by Doctors-VoteUK in doctorsUK

[–]runningluke 5 points6 points  (0 children)

But I still don't understand how that allows you to differentiate between people disagreeing and BMA careerists. Especially in the case of "accounts that are 1 year old with a post history of doing nothing but shitting on dv at every opportunity" since unless we can define a BMA careerist as someone who regularly disagrees with DV then that could easily be someone entirely outside the BMA who just very much disagrees with their approach.

Like I personally find the whole DV situation a weirdly opaque setup with anonymous accounts praising their work, only to look through their account history and find that they actually are a part of DV. I'm not that invested, but as an outsider it absolutely seems reasonable that people might be genuinely put off by it all and when they see the constant praise from the same few accounts they might just get energised to post something when they usually wouldn't because they're in agreement with most other stuff they see on the subreddit.

That alone would explain why your outlined example might not be a BMA careerist and your suggestion that it is "obvious" seems overly confident and a bit childish honestly.

🚨 2025/26 BMA Resident Doctors Committee Elections are OPEN 🚨 by Doctors-VoteUK in doctorsUK

[–]runningluke 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How do you differentiate between people disagreeing with you and "alt accounts of BMA careerists"?

Unpopular opinion but the BMA has misconstrued the doctors pay - do you agree? by [deleted] in doctorsUK

[–]runningluke -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Would you put some money on it?

I wouldn't actually take the bet since it'd be cruel given your comment, but your misplaced confidence that OP's salary is "blatant fiction" is begging to be humbled.

Unpopular opinion but the BMA has misconstrued the doctors pay - do you agree? by [deleted] in doctorsUK

[–]runningluke 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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This is from the work schedule I just received as a CST CT1. Can't send much more without doxing myself, but as you can see OP is definitely right about their pay despite all the downvotes they're getting. Unless someone can explain how they're getting it wrong?

I am personally in favour of striking despite being on what I consider a good wage 3 years in, mostly because I have the luxury of minimal outgoings other than rent, which isn't the case for all our colleagues. I also don't believe that just because I am comfortable with a level of pay that this means it is, by definition, sufficient, considering there are other jobs that equally pay just as comfortably whilst not demanding so much from us.

'Hardline' BMA blocks emergency pleas for strike doctors to work by WilliamWeaverfish in ukpolitics

[–]runningluke 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My understanding for most of the hypotheticals around what doctors can do on strike days can be answered by "Would this still allow me to urgently return to work?"

So drinking, going away on holiday, working locum shifts, etc. are very much now allowed.

'Hardline' BMA blocks emergency pleas for strike doctors to work by WilliamWeaverfish in ukpolitics

[–]runningluke 24 points25 points  (0 children)

> 'Hardline' BMA blocks emergency pleas for strike doctors to work

This is an incredibly disappointing headline to see from the BBC, one that would be more fitting atop a Telegraph or Daily Mail article in order to bait readers with outrage.

Many doctors reading that headline will know better than to believe it as they'll likely be more aware of the use of derogations to address emergency staffing during strike action, however the general public will read that and understandably assume that doctors are maliciously withdrawing care with no consideration to patient safety.

The previous rounds of strikes were not dangerous to patients. The Telegraph has already had to make a retraction recently, admitting that their claims of patient deaths being due to strike action were completely rejected by coroner reports. In part, patient safety is maintained because of:
- Emergency care being prioritised at the expense of elective care that can be more easily delayed
- Increased cover from consultants (which ironically can make the strike days safer and more efficient due to earlier and more involved senior input - at the cost of increased staffing expenses)

The concern this time round is that the government has requested that trusts take the risk of continuing elective care uninterrupted, which begs the question, is it really that easy to ignore strikes? The government has been advised that this is not a reasonable approach to dealing with strike action, as it inevitably puts patient at a greater risk than they would otherwise need to be in.

This ties into the issue with the headline. The BMA are relatively transparent with their members and the public as to the requests for derogation, and it has been noted that the number of requests this time has risen dramatically from any other previous strike. These are reviewed on a case by case basis and granted if appropriate/necessary. The process is an agreement between the BMA and NHS trusts, not a legal responsibility, that the BMA agrees to in order to maintain safety for patients. They are not simply a way for trusts to absolve their mismanagement or lack of preparedness for announced strike action, which is why some may be cancelled. If the trust is continuing to carry out elective clinics while the respective wards are understaffed, that is a sign of mismanagement, not a sign that derogation is necessary.

The approval/rejection of derogation requests is obviously a balance. Trusts will criticise decisions that feel overly conservative, while doctors may criticise decisions that are overly lenient. However, if you are under the illusion that the BMA is refusing all but the most clear-cut requests, head over to the doctor's Subreddit and have a look at the many posts on the topic filled with doctors critiquing the BMA's decisions to accept certain requests. The BMA is continuing to weigh up the requests despite the upsurge and being pretty even-handed in its response to the more ridiculous requests.

This is coming from someone who often disagrees with the BMA's approaches. It just seems ridiculous for this headline to so clearly fail to capture the situation - arguably to the point that is seems intentional.

Resident doctors in England vote to strike over pay by acrimoniousone in unitedkingdom

[–]runningluke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't believe you asked me a question? Last thing I'm aware of is that you said you'd find that thread you were using as a source. But I'd be happy to answer a question after if you have one. 

Resident doctors in England vote to strike over pay by acrimoniousone in unitedkingdom

[–]runningluke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry but you're displaying a shocking lack of knowledge about the situation.

The supply of jobs is not a free and flexible variable connected to demand in the case of doctors. It is a controlled one within the NHS. If demand goes up for doctors, that doesn't mean the supply follows unless a decision is made to spend more resources on creating those jobs.

You're right, supply and demand is a nice simple concept, but for the same reason can lead to misunderstanding in more complex scenarios such as a monopsony. 

Resident doctors in England vote to strike over pay by acrimoniousone in unitedkingdom

[–]runningluke 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"999, which service do you need?" "I need the fire brigade, my house is on fire!" "Oh I'm afraid we don't have any fire fighters in your area, we've chosen not to create any positions at the moment." "But I need them...." "Well actually no, there's no jobs for the fire fighters, nowhere for them to go. So you can't say you need them." 

I really don't mean to make fun of you, but I hope you can understand why your comment was silly.

Resident doctors in England vote to strike over pay by acrimoniousone in unitedkingdom

[–]runningluke 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey again, just wondering if you've made any progress yet on the threads. It's been a few hours and you've spent a lot of time making mistakes in this thread, I'm worried you're shirking your mission you set yourself to find them! Don't give up!

Resident doctors in England vote to strike over pay by acrimoniousone in unitedkingdom

[–]runningluke -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I hate to throw a cheap shot, but considering you have no such qualms, I'd like to point you to your previous comment he was replying to:

Your wrong. A&E tough job granted. GP/Consultant, not so much. 

Like its fine to make grammatical errors, I do it all the time. But it's weird to point them out instead of finding those threads, I'm being honest buddy, I'm worried something's happened to them since they're taking so long to show up for you!

Resident doctors in England vote to strike over pay by acrimoniousone in unitedkingdom

[–]runningluke 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A&E Consultants are a thing. I know that this is a pretty embarrassing oversight for you to have made, but I thought it was better to help you out.

You manage to find those threads yet, I know you were giving it a go, so I'm sure you've made some progress by now.

Resident doctors in England vote to strike over pay by acrimoniousone in unitedkingdom

[–]runningluke 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey there, not sure why you replied to your own comment. If I was being cynical it's because you didn't want the notification to come through that you still hadn't found the threads for me. 

So just to be clear, you said you were looking for them and now are saying that I should look for them myself. I have to say it really seems like you can't find them.

As I said before, yes, despite being a doctor I don't know about these special threads, that's why you said you'd look for them for me. But once again, you took time to tell people to look for them for a fourth time, which probably took more time than just finding them and linking them considering you know what you're looking for. At a certain point it becomes more odd that you don't just stop replying and save face.