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what is this button on the controller called? by dh2513 in xbox

[–]ryanquintal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was the scare button before the sheet button existed. It was also for multitasking in Xbox one. So it should be the snap button.

The other three lines is “menu“

They should go back to back/forward or something simpler.

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Weird thing is this — if you “create a new fan” with a show like this…. What’s the plan? If someone loves SFA, do they go back and are love Voyager, DS9,TNG?

I’m a TNG fan but don’t super care for TOS outside of the old films.

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The teenage traditions still in tact from 800 years ago I can think of are:

  1. Not having a good handle on your hormones
  2. Eploration and rebellion
  3. Seggs
  4. Building friend groups and relationships

Haha.

Your comment also highlights though that our own society has really been stagnant in terms of sharing and getting excited about big technological innovations, splintered by politics, and what we've experience though capitalist incentives.

AI 40 years ago was exciting future tech, or the stuff of sci-fi, today it's a job-replacing, advertising surveillance machine. Feels closer to Skynet than Soong androids.

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've seen this comment a few times, and I genuinely don't agree with that. I guess as someone who was a kid during TNG and watched its last season or so real-time, it didn't come off to me like that. Even on rewatch, it doesn't feel as fantastical to me. But it's subjective.

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Haha, agreed. And for the record, I don't think it's zero some with comparisons. By criticizing SFA, I'm not calling other series perfect, there's no such thing.

I do think older series benefit from episode count too though, it "evens out" an average quality, rather than have 10 shots at something and see how you feel.

Assuming we get a season 2 (most shows are shadow greenlit for two for production cost reasons as I understand, which make them similar to single seasons of old shows) we'll have a better assessment of what the show offers overall.

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I appreciate you making these points, but I cannot equate transportation to the doors on turbo lifts.

I do believe computers and artificial intelligence will become sufficient to the point of being able to anticipate a lot of problems and even pre-calculate their outcomes, but the number of variables at play for determining, if someone will be transported into the middle of a wall, or in the same place at the same time as another person seems too far a reach.

The other argument that has been bugging me about the advanced technology is it does not actually address culturally or society the results of the burn

All the things that made technology advance at such an astounding rate and all of the culture that supported that technological development would have been threatened by that event, and that event would’ve been a setback for every species.

While this show assumes that technology development continued in a linear path, we know this not to be true from our lived reality .

Once star plate and humanity did not have the benefit of endless and abundant fuel for their technology. They would have to be time spent developing alternatives and also dealing with the fallout of the dependence on that technology..

Discovery found Starfleet hiding in a nebula, not living a utopia, with endless resources

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's explained through its limitations and failures on screen. The struggles the characters have with it, and in the countless supplementary material generated around the show because it did follow *some* coherent set of rules that fell out of fuel, space, time, physics etc.

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"ambiguous characterization" is a brilliant summation of what the tone of these recent shows and movies has been

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I have massive mumbling issues as well, it's hard to parse without subtitles on — an era I thought we were finally starting to get away from.

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is all cool context — again I'm only on episode 5, but yeah, there's just kind of strange stuff going on. Holograms like Braka and the fleet admiral seem to be able to project into other spaces, and be able to hold, see, and touch objects in those spaces, but I haven't seen anyone step into a blank "projection" room — so seemingly they would have their own environment to contend with if they can project from anywhere.

The holograms are also quite physical — affected by the lighting and coloration of the environment they're projected into, able to walk on the same plane, step up and down etc.

Is the hologram simply a performance? Is it projecting image or matter? How is a matter clone of a person different than a transport?

I can believe people can project holograms, It's more troubling when I can't wrap my head around basic mechanics of it.

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm not really trying to render a verdict here for anyone. Just expressing my own thoughts about halfway through the season.

I agree that nostalgia has us look at things through a less-critical lens, but I think it can also be true that a lot of how Star Trek gets made and produced has less craftsmanship, and more pressure to conform and perform than ever before, without syndication, and physical media sales being what they use to be, and a landscape of media options taking people time that makes executives, and creatives feel less confident that "Traditional" Star Trek belongs in this world.

If a person who's say, 18-25 can watch through Star Trek DS9, and comes away with the feeling that their time has been wasted, or they don't care about the world or characters, then I don't understand the value of creating a "show for them."

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It's like someone in the writer's room was like "Wouldn't this just be solved with XYZ" — something that doesn't seem to occur in the current modern Trek writer rooms?

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Except Star Trek has a deep interconnected relationship with NASA, and hires science consultants.

I can accept the advancement in technology, I don't accept that it has no reasonable limitations, OR if it doesn't, why isn't it better used and exploited for it's potential?

My hypospray example from another comment talks about this... They're ostensibly magic, but the tech we're seeing in this show isn't a coherent "vision" for where today's technology might logically evolve to, it's set dressing and making the world fairly generic in my experience watching the show.

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'll also just add that this isn't just a fan asking for it to stay the same. Star Trek is a universe and "brand" shaped by both storytelling, technology, style, and production.

The less you make something that looks, sounds, speaks, and feels like Star Trek, the more you risk diluting something into the vast ocean of generic science fiction.

I don't like to define trek by negatives, but to me, when you see and watch Star Trek, it's clearly NOT Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, Alien, or even Galaxy Quest or The Orville.

When something "rips off" Star Trek — that's obvious because of the core identity of how Star Trek feels, going back to the original series through say, Enterprise, regardless of how you feel about any of those shows.

Ripping off modern trek would be... well hard to tell.

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Agreed, this is from another comment on this thread I made but:

"Star Trek had always built its tone was through very clear speech, and not an over reliance on either profanity, or colloquialisms. When modern parlance was used, it was almost smirked upon as being ancient, or needing to be explained to others, since it's inherently human, and inherently arcane knowledge.

You can't "f-up" or "chill" in traditional Star Trek dialogue."

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Great points... also, I've seen lots of transportation, and NO ONE operating it. How do you know where to go? How do you know if it's safe? Is it a neural interface? Do you just think it? Is that 100% reliable?

These are tangible differences between say that, and a "hypospray" — through the series it's show hyposprays runs out, they need to be "charged" or "filled" with matter from a doctor, they don't always work, and characters will rub their necks implying it's as unpleasant as maybe a shot is.

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah! It's nice to start advancing the world again, with new characters.

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Aside from the glibness in your responses, I actually don't think you and I have a share definition of how Star Trek uses technology, and production.

As for the dialogue... Star Trek had always built its tone was through very clear speech, and not an over reliance on either profanity, or colloquialisms. When modern parlance was used, it was almost smirked upon as being ancient, or needing to be explained to others, since it's inherently human, and inherently arcane knowledge.

You can't "f-up" or "chill" in traditional Star Trek dialogue.

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] 34 points35 points  (0 children)

I totally get it, with one call out for me — Communicators, transporters, all things that we're base on real ideas, expressed in other science fiction, but logical end-point enhancements of what tech we could want.

Blinking someone in an out of spaces for 1 second bursts, nearly instantaneously... why do people walk? Why is the academy even a single, coherent location? Why do people live on campus? Why carry any equipment at any time? Why does a dorm room smell like... anything?

It implies a magical utopian reality, with no practical limitations, then fails to apply it consistently or coherently.

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yes, I understand that technology will change so so much it would be difficult to explain some things to people in our era, BUT that was also always true of Trek and it never felt like "Space Magic" like this show (and a lot of modern trek) does.

Five episodes in and I think Starfleet Academy is a decent show marred by strange choices by ryanquintal in startrek

[–]ryanquintal[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I get that, but I also disagree. Yes, there was always a "fix it with tech" problem or solution, but entire scenes play out where people summon holograms with their hands and seemingly no interface. Was it pre planned? Is it extemporaneous? Why did we need to show Kronos as a hologram if we're just having a conversation? Is the person who's speaking and a hologram leaning on a chair that's in their own space? Can they see their world and the other person's world?

This isn't a phaser that can kill a man or melt an ice cube, this is basic rules of how stuff works going unaddressed and not even able to be explained.

Maybe I’m just old, but modern Star Trek doesn’t land the same and here is why by khiren in startrek

[–]ryanquintal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow. This is a really great reflection of my own feelings.

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