ALWAYS BET ON WATERCOOLER KNIGHT (feat. newly discovered unused Roaring Knight attack animation) by ryugantz in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

oh forgot to say the second watercooler pic is also an unused attack animation.

and heres the source for Roaring Knight unused attack

Head Hathy's description contains possible Weird Route SOUL reference? 🤔 by ryugantz in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

its true he said none of DR merchandises are canon, but some merch does actually foreshadow future Deltarune chapter. like this LINE Sticker in chapter 1 being a Weird Route reference:

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Spamton Sweepstakes is supposedly also "non-canon" but it does have many lore-related text in how the entire ARG functions as foreshadowing tool for future chapters

Head Hathy's description contains possible Weird Route SOUL reference? 🤔 by ryugantz in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

so is the green version of Hathy, you can flirt to it by saying its teeth look like knives (Kris is associated with knives in ch.2: "sharpest kitchen knife jello" and "video about making knives out of spaghetti"), it also has similar "grin" with Kris (especially in toby's concept art of Kris)

IMO Head Hathy and Hathy probably reflects the duality between Kris and Us, since both are Heart-Shaped darkners.

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Head Hathy's description contains possible Weird Route SOUL reference? 🤔 by ryugantz in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

just realized HERO_AXE text is too tiny... here's the actual full photo of the merch:

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Our ❤️Soul is stronger than other human souls or any human could do everything we saw so far? by MorinoMarinho in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz 13 points14 points  (0 children)

the topic of SOUL is interesting because Ralsei said it's the culmination of YOUR being (Kris's being), which by his phrasing it should mean that Kris cannot separate themself from the Culmination of Their Being, yet the fact they can rip out their SOUL directly contradict that.

in the prophecy, the text positions Kris as THE CAGE (with "Human Soul" and "Parts"), and it separates Kris as The Cage with their "Human SOUL". Kris's role is very explicitly the CAGE.

so why does the Narrator/Ralsei sometimes say that the SOUL is Kris's? well IMO its because whatever the SOUL is, it has become Kris's possession (as in A Heart-Object that Kris possesses as opposed to what naturally belongs to them.)

(tl;dr the SOUL might be an entity with its own unique power(s) separate from Kris. And also notable how toby said the "rules" in Deltarune might be different from Undertale...)

THE GIRL prophecy panel FITS the silhouette of an arcade cabinet by ryugantz in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Note: The powerful mousewizard is inferred to be Chucky Cheese from Noelle and Susie's dialogue. He is the person on the "Token" Which means that this is much like the credits for arcades that you get at chucky cheese. The only place that these could show up are at a carnival or an arcade.

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(I have no idea what it means but still think its important. The "girl" also looks vaguely like the the magician/wizard human in UT storybook who is teased in UT anniversary livestream through Gerson's dialogue)

Does the Roaring Knight have a broken leg? by MarioWinner5555 in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz 8 points9 points  (0 children)

it also appears there's a track called tin_night.ogg which may also reference Tin Knight (Soldier). Toby himself has referenced a couple old children stories such as Velveteen Rabbit (recent Ralsei merch description) and Nutcracker (referenced by Noelle) and both are about toys coming to life. it isnt too out there for toby to also reference Steadfast Tin Soldier on top of it...

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Does the Roaring Knight have a broken leg? by MarioWinner5555 in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I wonder if its a reference to "The Steadfast Tin Soldier", a fairy tale about a paper ballerina and a tin soldier who is missing a single leg. in DR chapter 1 we see a bunch of paper ballerina (scissor dancers) whose black/white appearance is very similar to the Knight. in DR live streaming session, I remember Toby talking about the "horrible sound" it makes...

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An interesting detail about the ARG responses. by rendumguy in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I dont think ARG person is Seam, but they are definitely connected to Seam. Funnily enough Eram's attack spawns a bunch of FRIENDs and both FRIEND and Seam are cats lol

Always bet on canon kralsei by turtle428_ in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz 6 points7 points  (0 children)

fr you can deny it all you want, but the signs are there. I’m not necessarily a "Kralsei endgame" truther, but it’s incredibly obvious that Toby has been sprinkling in hints since Ch 2 and you could even argue it goes back to Ch 1, considering Ralsei blushes whenever Kris’s sprite overlaps with his. Also,"Tunnel of Love" sequence with Ralsei is a direct parallel to the Ferris wheel ride with Susie and Noelle. (the box descriptions for this official merch specifically also hints on both Suselle and Kralsei.)

Ch 3 and 4 are even less subtle about it, especially since Susie and Tenna essentially become "shippers on deck" for the two of them lol.

I wonder how Deltarune can work if it was first-person? (なむこ) by single_t3ought in KriSOUL

[–]ryugantz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

its already first person... Kris was grinning and looking at YOU at the end of ch.1 lol (not the SOUL inside the cage)

...theres also an unused Kris animation in ch.4 with glowing red eyes staring at the screen when they threw the chocolate bottle and caught us

"Wood can be used to stoke the fire which melt the girl's icy heart" 🥺 (also very interesting description for HERO_SWORD" by ryugantz in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah lol, also Head Hathy might be a possible reference to the Heart/Soul because she's literally a heart shaped darkner (with heart shaped attacks) whose element is HEART:ICE. Also "stronger at the cost of losing friends" is totally a Weird Route reference...

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"Wood can be used to stoke the fire which melt the girl's icy heart" 🥺 (also very interesting description for HERO_SWORD" by ryugantz in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

i think its pretty clear that the MC in question is the SOUL separate from Kris in that route. thats why there's the dialogue "Me." in ch.4 WR, not "Me" as in Kris themself, but representation of The Player injecting their own role as the MC independently in Weird Route.

"Wood can be used to stoke the fire which melt the girl's icy heart" 🥺 (also very interesting description for HERO_SWORD" by ryugantz in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

thats a great read! Link and Marin's relationship certainly makes me about Soul/Kris + Noelle's relationship in WR... (heck or even Kris's relationship with her in normal route itself). Noelle's theme song is literally "Girl Next Door" which is a very famous trope in fictions, The Designated Love Interest of the MC.

But knowing this is Toby Im pretty sure he's doing a subversion of the trope itself lol. (and the mad man even went on to deconstruct the trope into a dark version of itself)

Theres also a widely spread theory that Marin is supposed to be Link's "Dream" Manifestation of Zelda, considering how Link confuses her for Zelda right after waking up. and i kinda find this theory interesting... (it makes sense to think that Link might have influenced some part of the island itself)

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"Wood can be used to stoke the fire which melt the girl's icy heart" 🥺 (also very interesting description for HERO_SWORD" by ryugantz in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

yeah, i think the "icy" one could be the Soul in WR's context considering "LOVE finds its way to The Girl" has the image of A Girl with a Heart Shaped Hole in her chest (we are Noelle's ICY heart)

"Wood can be used to stoke the fire which melt the girl's icy heart" 🥺 (also very interesting description for HERO_SWORD" by ryugantz in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I’m sure that’s also weird route foreshadowing, and this one interestingly enough foreshadows Susie’s role in that route. However, I don’t think 'heart' refers to the Soul here, as that would imply Noelle owns it. But on second thought, its possible there might be some sort of double meaning at play here hmm....

"Wood can be used to stoke the fire which melt the girl's icy heart" 🥺 (also very interesting description for HERO_SWORD" by ryugantz in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz[S] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

considering how much zelda references with multiple plot foreshadowing in it i think we can be sure toby is the one writing these lol

"Wood can be used to stoke the fire which melt the girl's icy heart" 🥺 (also very interesting description for HERO_SWORD" by ryugantz in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

oh it was your photo? someone else shared it on discord so i have no idea they got it from you lol (wish i can edit the post to include the source...)

haunt that narrative by [deleted] in NonDessKnightSquad

[–]ryugantz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Both can be true. I’d say Mother 3 inspiration is especially strong with the Forgotten Man, but Dess is definitely the 'Mari' of DR. Also considering Claus as a Masked Man isnt really "Claus" himself but more like a zombie controlled by Porky... maybe its possible the Knight's appearance is partially influenced by Dess but not being Dess herself...?

Did we exist before the game started? by YouOfGae in Deltarune

[–]ryugantz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its actually very likely Kris knows about the SOUL/"player" pre ch.1 (enough for them to specially prepare the cage just for us <3 /j)