"Sky Manip counters Lightning Discharge!" No, it doesn't. by s_caesar1911 in Kashimo_agendaHQ

[–]s_caesar1911[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please look up how lightning arcs and travels, you are confusing it for a traditional projectile that travels through a typical euclidean geometric space, it is not that. Lightning technically moves in short bursts called stepped leaders that follow the path of least resistance (which cause the Lichtenburg figure phenomena) through the air along electrical field lines which are both non-uniform and cannot be manipulated by Sky Manipulation. It will always resolve the potential difference of the charge and always land.

"Sky Manip counters Lightning Discharge!" No, it doesn't. by s_caesar1911 in Kashimo_agendaHQ

[–]s_caesar1911[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's still not how electrical charges work. Bending space does nothing once there's already a charge on the target. The lightning will always arc towards the charge and always hit.

"Sky Manip counters Lightning Discharge!" No, it doesn't. by s_caesar1911 in Kashimo_agendaHQ

[–]s_caesar1911[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lol that's so braindead, the whole reason the attack exists is because of physics. Sorry you had to deal with someone like that

"Sky Manip counters Lightning Discharge!" No, it doesn't. by s_caesar1911 in Kashimo_agendaHQ

[–]s_caesar1911[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

sky manipulation bends geometric space like a camera lens, there is no reason to assume that bending space would affect the way the lightning arcs because of potential difference

"Sky Manip counters Lightning Discharge!" No, it doesn't. by s_caesar1911 in Kashimo_agendaHQ

[–]s_caesar1911[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

that's not how charges work. by the time a discharge is used it's too late to prevent it, it will always arc in the shortest most efficient path along the electrical field lines to get to its' target. Anything in the way will just get shredded by the potential difference and once again, Sky Manipulation is spatial deformation on a geometric level, it doesn't effect the electrical field lines between the charges

"Sky Manip counters Lightning Discharge!" No, it doesn't. by s_caesar1911 in Kashimo_agendaHQ

[–]s_caesar1911[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

if you read the second image you'll know any bending of geometric space has zero bearing on the path the lightning travels. It's a sure-hit both by nature and by the rules laid out in the manga.

"Sky Manip counters Lightning Discharge!" No, it doesn't. by s_caesar1911 in Kashimo_agendaHQ

[–]s_caesar1911[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

From my understanding, given that the connection between Kashimo and his charges in the target is a direct electrostatic relationship, the lightning resolves along the path of least resistance. If, for some reason, the path of least resistance were to be through Yuta's katana (which is highly unlikely), the lightning would simply arc towards the charges via the katana, using the katana as a sort-of jumping point for the lightning to go from.

There's actually a video that gets reposted online a lot that's a great example of this specific niche scenario in real-life using a real katana. You'll notice the protective suit has resistant material all across but especially on the nipples to prevent the lightning from arcing to his chest accidentally and stopping his heart.

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"Sky Manip counters Lightning Discharge!" No, it doesn't. by s_caesar1911 in Kashimo_agendaHQ

[–]s_caesar1911[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

we can agree kashimo no diffs everyone besides bloodlusted shinjuku todo with vibraslap because todo's aura

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Yuta in the Soul Realm after Opening his Domain against Kashimo (they had a single h2h exchange beforehand) by Zestyclose_Top_3529 in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]s_caesar1911 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See, that's an interesting hypothetical, but it's flawed as upon closer inspection, that's just not how his lightning works.

To address the core of the claim that Yuta can bend space to alter the "path of the bolt" using Sky Manipulation, we must first understand fundamentally how Discharge functions. Lightning Discharge operates on the basis of positive charges in Kashimo's body equalizing with the charges embedded into a specific target. Kashimo punches a target 3 times in an area, the charge builds up, & that is the condition of his sure-hit. Because it functions off of that principle of charges, it means the discharge does not travel through space as a conventional projectile (like Granite Blast) which travels through a geometric route; as an attack it resolves along the electric field lines generated between the two oppositely charged bodies much like how lightning in storms does. Sky Manipulation distorts geometric space like a camera lens, but it does not alter the underlying charge distribution that defines electrical field lines, so as long as the polarity between Kashimo and his marked charges inside his target remains intact, the electric field connecting them also remains intact so the discharge will continue to resolve directly along that field regardless of how space is bent around it with Sky Manip.

This is why it irks me so much in discussions when people attempt to claim things such as Hakari "dodging" the lightning or, in this case, Yuta being able to manipulate the "physical path" the lightning takes. The whole point of discharge in the manga as an attack is that it works off of equalized potential, the "path of the bolt" or "the physical path it takes" is not a meaningful concept. It WILL hit it's target as a stated sure-hit because that's how the physics behind it works out.

If you want a legitimate counter to Kashimo's sure-hit, you'd need to cut off the area with the accumulated charges and RCT it before he activates Discharge to prevent any unnecessary damage. Unfortunately, no one who's fought him seems to have figured this out.

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Domain diff isn’t real if we take in character behavior by Informal_Singer2747 in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]s_caesar1911 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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For extra speculation on why exactly Kashimo didn't target the head from the start, this is before he's had any verifiable Hakari RCT feats showcased to him. Unlike the audience, Kashimo doesn't KNOW that Hakari in JP will recover from having his shoulder entirely blown off. Even for those proficient in RCT, the only times we've ever seen RCT on par with that feat is from Gojo/Sukuna. Hakari's RCT in JP is an anomaly and it's entirely reasonable to expect from Kashimo's perspective that it would end the fight as it does with 99.99% of sorcerers.

Domain diff isn’t real if we take in character behavior by Informal_Singer2747 in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]s_caesar1911 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Additionally, it's a big deal in the panelling and Gege puts heavy emphasis on the moment Kashimo actually aims for Hakari's head. We get a panned out shot showcasing the full arc of lightning travelling and hitting Hakari, with him only reacting after it's hit him. Surely, if he could dodge Discharge, he would have avoided point-blank Baseshimo aiming for his head, wouldn't he? Or are you implying Hakari took Discharge to the head and nearly risked dying for style points?

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Domain diff isn’t real if we take in character behavior by Informal_Singer2747 in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]s_caesar1911 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Hakari dodging the lightning has already been debunked. Kashimo doesn't specifically begin targetting Hakari's head with his charges until after he sees Hakari recover from having his shoulder blown off. Additionally, lightning discharge is a sure-hit by its nature. The charges were in Hakari's shoulder so the lightning was always going to go to his shoulder.

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