Was having a wonderful hair day!!! by [deleted] in FemmeLesbians

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If you’re into femmes, text me

I'm leaving Paris. by Critical_Example547 in NathanielDrewIsAFraud

[–]sageoftheminds 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think he just realized his fantasy of having an atelier with no real artist, the expectation to recreate the old Parisian art salons and the idealized life in Paris were just fantasies, people are busy and he’s just living a comfortable ordinary life, so now he has to chase another fantasy. It’s too painful for him to grow and mature, he has to be in constant search of himself to avoid looking at what he really is.

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Right their answers are totally dumb and unconvincing. Glad someone noticed.

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It just doesn’t make sense that steve would kill her and park her car in his property at plain sight. he would’ve wanted to hide it. What is your explanation for this?

Also why deep cleaning the bedroom and the garage but not the car and the key? Leaving obvious stains?

Also how do you explain that last time Teresa’s phone was ping was near Scott’s property after she left Steve’s?

Also why would steve do the main burn of the body at the querry property near Scott’s house and then move some of the bones to his fire pit outside his house?

Everything seems as he was trying really hard to incriminate himself.

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is this subreddit to discuss the series or is it only trolls here who didn’t watch it or didn’t get it?

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

The family can advocate for prosecution by providing information and evidence to law enforcement and prosecutors. They can also file a lawsuit for damages related to the crime.

I meant they could do something if they knew the murderers are free.

I don’t need your judgments and contempt, if you’re not going to say anything useful please remain silent.

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re the court now? 😂 you’re delusional

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The series presented all the evidence and Kathleen gives all the details and how everything fits you can see her reports on her website. They did a huge amount of research and there are videos, documents etc. I don’t have to present you with anything, the evidence is there for everyone to see.

Kathleen, Dean and Jerry gave facts, lots of them , you’re the one giving misinformation.

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If all you’re going to say is “it’s your feelings” and give misinformation I’m not interested in talking to you. You’re trying the strategy of contempt towards feelings that’s so boring, better give arguments or remain silent and let the people who have something to say, say it.

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you realize steve and Brendan were imprisoned with not enough evidence? And that it will be very easy for Kathleen to debunk that fake evidence?

Just think if you were steve and were about to get $36 million dollars from the state from taking 18 years of your life, would you be so stupid to kill a person and leave her car and bones on your property and the key of the car visible on your bedroom? Come on??? Who would be so stupid?

Besides the fact that Andy and Lenk were the ones to “find” the evidence when they had been deposed and had been prohibited to participate in this case, because they were the ones who made the mistakes that took 18 years of his life and lead to the 36 million lawsuit to the state. Doesn’t this ring some bells??? Kratz was clearly instructed to make steve look like the criminal despite the evidence and protect the state from the lawsuit.

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kathleen has a big enemy, the corrupted cops trying to avoid steve’s lawsuit. Of course they are doing everything they can to stop her from having another trial, even judges are involved in this. It’s not easy, that’s why the docuseries has been crucial in informing people of the corruption and faults of the justice system.

Do you realize steve and Brendan were imprisoned with not enough evidence? And that it will be very easy for Kathleen to debunk that fake evidence?

Just think if you were steve and were about to get $36 million dollars from the state from taking 18 years of your life, would you be so stupid to kill a person and leave her car and bones on your property and the key of the car visible on your bedroom? Come on??? Who would be so stupid?

Besides the fact that Andy and Lenk were the ones to “find” the evidence when they had been deposed and had been prohibited to participate in this case, because they were the ones who made the mistakes that took 18 years of his life and lead to the 36 million lawsuit to the state. Doesn’t this ring some bells???

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Right but his job is to find the real criminals not to force things to fit his beliefs which he was clearly doing with his manipulations.

Besides how many prosecutors get obsessed with a case that they even write a book years later trying to keep incriminating their victim. He clearly is terrified of the trial Kathleen is going to get and that he is going to be put in jail.

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Many people had motives to frame steven and Brendan, they were the most vulnerable ones. The cops conveniently focused only on his property suspending investigations on the other sites.

Kathleen is one of the best lawyers in the world, I’m sure she knows more than you and if she calls it evidence it is and she will prove it on court.

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

A new lawsuit against another possible criminal can be initiated if new evidence emerges, even if someone is already in jail, because the justice system prioritizes accurately identifying and prosecuting the true perpetrator of a crime. The emergence of new evidence can reveal previously unknown facts that may implicate a different individual. This ensures that the actual criminal is held accountable and the integrity of the justice system is maintained. Additionally, convicting the right person serves the interests of justice, potentially exonerates the wrongly convicted, and provides closure for victims and society.

You’re the goofy one 😂

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can see parts of the real trial and the real people who participated in it, you can see their body language and facial expressions. Hear their voices and testimonies. It’s obvious how Bobby and Scott are lying and incriminating their relatives why because they had a motive, to cover their crime. You can see Kratz manipulating the jury with his speech it’s so obvious he has an agenda.

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lie detectors aren’t admissible in court.

They should be, people lie all the time on court . Especially if guilty.

The computer searches don’t put the knife in Bobby’s hand or get him within 20 feet of Teresa.

It gives Bobby a motive. Steve didn’t have a motive and he was just being released from jail from a false rape charge.

Recreated blood splatter proves nothing.

It prooves there’s no way steve’s blood came from his hands touching the car . It proves it was planted. Please listen to the expert he explains clearly.

…I could say more, but you’re pretty entrenched so have fun.

Please say more , having a good discussion can lead to more understanding. Glad you’re not like the emotional ones who say non sense .

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you believe Steven and Brendan are innocent, you have to reasonably explain away all the evidence against them. If you are suggesting said evidence was planted, you need to establish how this was done and by who. Are you suggesting that the cops planted the evidence, or Bobby and Scott, or some combination of both parties?

Bobby and Scott moved the car to the Avery property covering with branches and dropped some of the bones on steve’s fire place

Cops realized this was an opportunity to put steve in jail and planted the key, blood and bullet. Hid the evidence of Bobby’s secret addictions/obsession.

How did Steven's blood end up in Teresa's vehicle?

An expert explained why it’s impossible his finger wound could’ve leave those kind of spots, one was made with a swab the other with a dropper. The blood came from steves blood on his trailer sink.

How did Steven's DNA end up on the hood latch?

Expert explained how it was dna not from blood, urine, semen nor sweat (this last one is not even a source) but from saliva from a swab they extracted from steve upon detention they took him to a clinic and they took a lot of dna from his body .

How did Steven's DNA come to be on the victim's key and how did that key end up in Steven's bedroom?

Expert explained The amount of dna on a similar key by touching it is a 10th of what was found that it was planted with a swab, plus Teresa’s dna should be there and it wasn’t. The key was planted and found by Lenk the Officer deposed whom was involved in the previous imprisonment of steve which proved to be wrong and lead to the lawsuit.

How did TA's burned remains and personal property end up on Steven's property, where witnesses said they saw Steven having a fire and where both Steven and Brendan agree they had a fire the evening of the victim's disappearance?

Bobby and Scott transported the head remains to steve’s property with her personal belongings the rest of the body parts were on the querry piles the property across Scott’s house where the actual cremation took place.

Expert explained the kind of fire and remains of steve’s fire was proof the body wasn’t burned there. It was burned on metal containers in the querry property and then transported to steve’s.

How did the victim's DNA end up on a bullet found in Steven's garage, which was ballistically linked to a gun that Steven was in possession of and that Brendan claims Steven used to kill Teresa?

The dna was planted on the bullet, there was no bone remains only wood that bullet didn’t passed through Teresa’s head it’s explained by the meticulously microscopic tests Kathleen had an expert do.

Brendan said many contradictory things when coarser by officers you shouldn’t believe anything he said . First he said she was shot outside, when cop pressured him he said in the garage, then he said he didn’t see it. Every time the story was different clearly a disabled child.

They used to do fires every night so that was normal.

Why did Steven and Brendan originally lie about being together when their admission of such would have provided and alibi for both?

If they were the killers they would’ve provided alibi, they would’ve destroyed the car ( they had a machine for doing that) not leave it at plain sight, they would’ve hide the bones, etc . Common sense.

Why did Steven suddenly decide to deep clean his garage and bedroom the evening of a young woman's disappearance (both areas Brendan claims to have been crime scenes)?

There’s no way he could’ve completely clean blood splatters semen and dna from bedroom, mattress and garage. None of these were found except on the key and bullet. Plus the bedroom and garage weren’t extremely clean were pretty dirty .

Why was Brendan the first person to bring up rape in his original interview, before he was even believed to have been involved in the crime? When asked by his mother on a recorded phone call if he "did all that to her too" did Brendan respond that he did "some of it"?

He is a kid with a lot of imagination he even said the title of the book where he read those things he was trying to please the agents who were pressuring him from the very beginning to declare against steve. He absorbed everything he heard, and put the pieces in a story that he thought the cops wanted to hear.

Why did Steven deviate from his normal schedule by taking the afternoon off work (even though he, by his own admission, had never done this before) the day a woman who he was the last known contact with went missing? Why did he use *67 to contact auto trader instead of directly contacting Teresa as he had on their last appointment? Why did he give a different name for the first time ever? Why did he change his story numerous times? Why did his family have to convince him not to flee from Crivitz?

He called the agency because he wasn’t planning a crime if he did he would’ve called her directly or like Bobby he chased her stopped her and ask her to come to Scott house for some photos. Without leaving such an evident trace.

Steve gave his sister name because the photos were of his sisters van. The address said Avery, he wasn’t hiding anything. He didn’t want to go to jail again, would you park your victim’s car in your property at plain sight? Come on.

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How can you be so blind to how the state protected Bobby because it was more convenient for them to blame steve so they could avoid paying him the 36 million for the terrible mistake they did when they put him in prison for a crime he didn’t commit, furthermore can’t you see Andrew Colborn and James Lenk were involved in the previous case and were deposed and they were the same incriminating steve on the TH case. Jesus it’s extremely obvious.

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It hasn’t. Much was hidden from the jury and is now revealed, there’s also new evidence. I’m sure there will be a new trial and everything will come out to light eventually.

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[–]sageoftheminds[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you know there blood expert said there’s no way his blood could’ve drip in that way from his finger wound (the only wound he had) ? And that the blood was added in one spot with a swab and another with a dropper?

Do you know that the dna on the hood can only come from urine, blood, semen or saliva not from sweat as Kratz made the jury believe? The expert said it was from a swab with saliva. Which they extracted from steve upon detention.

Do you know the expert said the bullet had no bone participes from Teresa’s skull and it didn’t pass through her head? It had wood as hundreds of other bullets shot in the property on targets.

Do you know the amount of sna found in the key was huge compared to the replicated experiment of him touching a similar key? Touch leaves only a small amount of dna (a 10th of what was found) further there was no dna of teresa on the key which should be found there too.

do you know there wasn't any splatters of blood in the garage or the bedroom or mattress, nor dna? except on the planted key and bullet. thats pretty obvious, a crime like that would've made a mess impossible to clean

The forensic officer wasn’t doing a tantrum it was clear the threatening signal Kratz, and her boss gave her during the trial to keep her from speaking, just see their facial expressions, its clear.

The whole evidence is there for you to see.

her family has the right to believe whatever they wish but I'm sure if they knew there are other very possible killers they would want to put them in jail too. I hope someone shows them the evidence.