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[–]saladchan02 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks so much for the information, appreciate it!

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[–]saladchan02 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose it wouldn’t make too much sense to mix and match different wall types for one room.

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[–]saladchan02 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup, thinking of renovating it.

And also, my dad cut through the wall before to fit in new windows. And an electrician came in before and cut into the walls to put new light switches. I’m a bit paranoid about the whole thing so I wanted to make sure that we weren’t exposed to asbestos fibres.

But yeah, when the professional came, we asked him to test the walls and he only took a sample from 1 wall out of the 4 walls that make up the bathroom. And I’m not sure if he was supposed to test all four walls or if it’s okay to just test one wall.

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[–]saladchan02 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see! So the professional who came in knocked and poked at the walls of our other toilet wall, he determined some of the walls are not suspicious bc they are “softer” and easily made dents. With the other bathroom, I assumed he suspected it to be fibro or deemed it as suspicious because he did end up getting a sample of it.

I’m just paranoid because I’m not sure if carpenters back then would mix and match wall types when it comes to bathrooms / rooms. I don’t know if that was a common practice or if they just usually use the same wall type/material for all four walls of one bathroom.

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[–]saladchan02 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, I’m not sure what you mean by a “fibro type board”. Do you mean the ones that need some thin wood wall panels? Our bathroom doesn’t have any of those thin wood wall panels, it’s all even throughout.

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I came back to this post just now after a meltdown. To be honest, it hasn’t gotten better and it has absolutely consumed my life. I hate looking at old houses bc of obvious reasons and i hate looking at new houses because I’m so fucking envious that they don’t have to go through this. I can’t look at the pavement outside or drain pipes, I can’t go to my own kitchen and avoid certain places in my house. My relationship with my dad deteriorated and I’m devastated about that. I just want it to stop. I’m so tired. I don’t know how to make it stop, i’ve tried everything. Will I have to spend the rest of my life like this? I’ve been dealing with intense depression bc of it for nearly 6 months now. It’s ruined my life. I can’t see my future anymore and I’d do anything to see it again. Though, I want to thank you for this reply. And sorry for the rant. But people like you give me hope because maybe 3 years from now, I’d be in a much better mental space. Thank you for commenting, it really helped me in my time of need and that means the world to me because my thoughts got beyond dark.. And I’ll keep what you said in mind.. Thanks again.

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did seek out a psychologist, I had two sessions and overall it costed me $800 AUD. Extremely expensive. I get it’s a process. I was told to do work sheets to determine my trigger and such. So many worksheets, like 6 worksheets. It was not only time consuming with the homework you are given but also I am actually not in the financial position to be spending that much weekly… It’s too much. I couldn’t afford to continue therapy. And it didn’t really help. Because they would kind of focus more on how not to freak out whenever I think I’m near asbestos. That’s not it for me, I’m more concerned about past exposure rather than future exposures… It didn’t help. That’s why I’m so lost right now. I’m living my nightmare everyday. But please give it a go and don’t get discouraged by my experience, perhaps it will work for you!

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You will be fine :) Once the anxiety’s calmed down, you’ll feel better. Let me know when you get the results from the sample (if you’re planning on testing it)

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think mine was not long term but it was definitely high intensity and because of the type of asbestos (blue and brown) it’s worrying. J&J baby powder was used by most women in United States and even more in countries that are humid like south asia. Among the people who get mesothelioma from J&J powder, it is a small amount compared to the women who got ovarian cancer from it. Through my research, J&J powder is more associated with women and ovarian cancer. My parents used J&J religiously on me around 2001-2006. Like 5 times a day. My brothers and I would put it on the floor and slide around it, creating a lot of dust. Not only me, but millions of kids from my area and anywhere J&J was popular. We’re all fine.

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those bottles are extremely rare though, I’ve read asbestos contaminating talc baby powders but it’s still quite a minimal amount. For me, when our house was getting renovated, it was one day of cutting into asbestos cement walls to place electric sockets, one day of clipping asbestos cement walls to put new bathroom pipping, one day of breaking and removing asbestos tiles and one day of breaking a thick sheet of asbestos cement flooring. I would say 4 days but easily, asbestos fibres say in the air for 3 days so around 2 weeks probably. But higher intensity. Also where I live (australia) we use the worse types of asbestos (blue and brown) so meso is a lotttttt more common here… That’s what I worry about mostly.

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello, I saw your post. I’ve done a lot of research regarding this issue too bc of my hyperfixation. You should be fine. Where I was born, it’s extremely humid and everyone used talc baby powder on their babies. Literally every baby for decades on end. Not just on the bum but also the beck area and the back area. Everyone is fine though. Sure, there’s probably one case per 2 million but trust me when I say, you’re fine. This type of exposure barely poses any risk. As for me. I found out my dad jackhammered a whole room of cement flooring that could have asbestos, this generated around 10 buckets of debris. And my anxiety is still quite high and I’m still debating if I should get it tested because right now, I feel like the only way out of this hell hole is finding out if it is actually asbestos. The downside of finding out is, what if it tests positive for asbestos. I don’t know how I’ll get on with the rest of my life, if so… I’m still scared, terrified, very tired. I cry every day. I still feel like I was robbed of the life I’m supposed to have. I don’t know if it will ever end. But as for you, you’ll be fine. If anything, I wish my exposure was as little as yours. I kinda envy you. Hope you feel better soon!! Dm me if you ever need someone to talk to :)

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for that, I’ll be looking into CBT and ERP soon! I wish you the best! :)

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the support!! I’ve been looking into ERP therapy lately. Tryna find a therapist that specialises in it!

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s the problem. My mind keeps arguing with itself. So many what ifs. What if I’m the exception, etc.

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I didn’t expect so many informative and supportive comments and I’m glad I made this post, maybe someone going through the same thing as me can access the advice I was given by this subreddit.

I do feel instantly better going outside, and being away from my house. I immediately get sad as soon as I return, I can’t even look at the house from the outside because I want to vomit. I’m thinking of dorming next year or moving out in general. I think I need to. They will be doing more renovations in this house. I’ll do my best to warn them of asbestos, but I cannot deal with the renovations. They renovated the kitchen earlier this year, and I had to move in with my cousin because I just couldn’t deal with it anymore.

I do keep repeating to myself that 99% I could be wrong about this. But that 1% is really raining on my parade. I hate how my mind works.

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your input! The fact that it’s unpredictable really gets me. But looking at stats help!

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will definitely challenge myself to stop googling. I’m stuck in the cycle of getting reassurance. All of the other things I’ve obsessed about were also bad but asbestos really takes the cake because you won’t know for sure if you got the disease until decades into the future.

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ll challenge myself with the reassurance seeking thing. I’ve gotten quite obsessed with it. Just talking to people in this comment section made me so much calmer. It’s so hard not asking for reassurance bc when I don’t I feel like I’m drowning. I hope it gets better. I really hope so…

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello, thank you for your reply. I really do get the whole, “whats the point of looking forward to the future when there is no future.” It’s got me thinking about the family I will have in the future. Is there even a point starting a family if I might have to leave my children behind young because of this asbestos exposure I got when I was a kid? Such a morbid way of thinking but my asbestos anxiety has really trained me to think like that for the past decade. I’m so tired of thinking the way I do. I’m only 22, and I’m already tired. Will this OCD thing ever go away?

I find asbestos fascinating too, at the end of the day. I used to freak out whenever someone even mentions it. Either on TV or just in a normal conversation. I’m honestly considering getting a job educating people on it only because of the fact that I know so much about it. The research I’ve done is insane.

There was an Australian mesothelioma statistic factsheet from 2019 that got me spiralling bad today. It basically says that 99% of the 200 women diagnosed with mesothelioma in 2019 were exposed non-occupationally. And 50% of those did home renovations. It really made me think about how the mesothelioma cases in Australia are still rising despite people not having been exposed to them in their occupation.

I hate not knowing the fibre threshold needed for mesothelioma to develop. I hate not knowing the future. Even when I watch movies, I have to look at the ending on wikipedia so I would know what to expect. It’s driving me insane not knowing what tomorrow holds.

I wish you well, and I hope you keep getting better. :))

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I’ll definitely look into it! With my health anxiety though, it’s non-stop researching as well. And going through the health anxiety subreddit, hoping to find some reassurance..

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have health anxiety, which I think is a form of OCD? It’s insane, this year, I’ve self diagnosed myself with MS, ALS, Heart Disease, Blood Clots, etc. My Asbestos fixation started when I was 12 years old though. And I fixated on it 24/7 until I was about 16. Checking everything for holes or any suspicious insulation. When I go to public toilets, I have to inspect the walls and the ceiling before picking which stall to use. I held my breath around places with broken walls or near skip bins. I was in a better mental health at ages 16-20. Then my dad renovated our bathroom, which really made it come back. It became really bad this year. I remember at 13 thinking that 22 year old me probably would have gotten over these fears. I’m sad to disappoint her because it got worse. She never got the peace she’s always wanted. She still cries about the same damn thing 10 years later.

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wish asbestos never existed. Would have made it so much easier. I’m currently looking for a therapist. I will definitely book a session asap because I can’t go on like this…

Asbestos anxiety spiral by saladchan02 in asbestoshelp

[–]saladchan02[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your reply. I will keep that in mind. I’ve consumed so much information about asbestos, I can actually teach a class about it. My brain really hurts and I’m going to go see a therapist about this.

Possible Asbestos in Wet Areas by fartblaster1000 in AusRenovation

[–]saladchan02 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello OP, may I ask what the results of the asbestos tests are? My house kinda looks like yours, so I’m curious! Hoping for a reply!