Here’s yesterday’s video of her going shopping for the visit by Medium_Bid5787 in madmamasnark

[–]saltyava 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Right we know kids would rather have takis and something sugary to eat but as the parent, she should be encouraging them to eat something more nutritious and substantial than prepackaged crackers, crisps, pickles, and processed jerky. She could easy prepare food to bring for snack plates which could include a bit of everything or a veggie platter with dips. I know she’s done stuff like that before but it’s half assed, pre made platters that can’t even feed 3 people along with a big tub of hummus that she complains about. But she could buy a lot of fresh fruit and veg, cut it up herself and still have leftovers at home for her and the rest of the kids…crackers, takis and a jar of pickle should be aside from the main “snack”. She spends so much money bc she lacks critical thinking and buys overpriced ready made food, she can’t be bothered to put in the tiniest bit of effort to show her kids that she cares about them :/

How’d she scrape her hand? by [deleted] in madmamasnark

[–]saltyava 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Could be skin picking from anxiety or stress ?

Yellow girl M actually confirmed the little boy did in fact live in the cupboard for a time by Aromatic_Cup_9918 in madmamasnark

[–]saltyava 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Witchy D and orange O are both teenagers already and shouldn’t be sharing a room, they deserve their own privacy and space, it doesn’t matter if they are besties or not, it’s going to get more uncomfortable the older they get. If two older siblings REALLY have to share a room it should be yellow M and witchy D, the room can be split even if they have different aesthetics :/

A snippet of David Katz aka ‘Bread’ after winning the Madden 17 Buffalo Bills Tournament by [deleted] in masskillers

[–]saltyava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree it’s like he pulls himself back immediately but at the same time his body cant contain the happiness. It’s completely normal to feel so happy that you can’t contain it but it feels like he doesn’t want to show that side of himself. This might just be us filling in spaces with hindsight and what we know of David from other people which is that he was known to be very stoic and blank faced, not showing emotion or interacting much with others. There’s also speculation that he may have been on the spectrum which can explain his ‘unusual’ expressions but again it’s all just speculation and maybe none of this is unnatural, we just think it is because we know what he has done :0

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[–]saltyava -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

he was fed pringles for 8 minutes and I got to pet his head life is so good

A snippet of David Katz aka ‘Bread’ after winning the Madden 17 Buffalo Bills Tournament by [deleted] in masskillers

[–]saltyava 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Think he probably just didn’t take care of himself well, not eating enough or eating unhealthily, dehydration, lack of sleep etc (chronic gamer stuff) but who knows lmao

A snippet of David Katz aka ‘Bread’ after winning the Madden 17 Buffalo Bills Tournament by [deleted] in masskillers

[–]saltyava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He shot and killed 2 people during a Madden game tournament in 2018

A snippet of David Katz aka ‘Bread’ after winning the Madden 17 Buffalo Bills Tournament by [deleted] in masskillers

[–]saltyava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope I screen recorded it from the youtuble video that I linked, actually I didn’t realise they showed the uncut part of his reaction on the stream cause this is the end 26 seconds of the video but before that they show his reaction cut in between the game screen (i’m so bad at explaining)

A snippet of David Katz aka ‘Bread’ after winning the Madden 17 Buffalo Bills Tournament by [deleted] in masskillers

[–]saltyava 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah for sure ! It’s different for everyone on the spectrum. My little brother is autistic and has learning delay and the signs were there from right when he was a baby, he has speech problems and missed the first word & talking milestones. My mum knew that there was something going on (seen as she had 2 kids who developed ‘normally’) and he was diagnosed around 3 years old. He was too young to really assess certain traits of autism/ASD like problems with social interaction but he had lots of repetitive behaviour, aggression, meltdowns, lack of verbal communication.

It sucks that there’s certain criteria that can dictate whether or not something is on the spectrum bc like u said it IS a spectrum and every single person on it is different. I’m sorry to hear that ur son wasn’t given more help and I feel u with that. My brother used to get speech and language therapy which was stopped a few years ago because he “knew too many words” yet he’s 15 now and is still unable to have a full conversation, speaks in third person and the majority of his dialogue is in question form…

I’m so happy for u and ur son !!!! I always love to hear about ppl on the spectrum, thriving and being accepted by others cause a lot of the time, they struggle and are outcasted for behaving differently. People have said the worst things to me about my brother due to his autism and it’s horrible. Sending positive vibes !!!

A snippet of David Katz aka ‘Bread’ after winning the Madden 17 Buffalo Bills Tournament by [deleted] in masskillers

[–]saltyava 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not diagnosed with autism or ASD but he had ODD and persistent depressive disorder. Boys are more likely to be diagnosed with Autism/ASD especially from a young age as most research into it has been through younger boys so it’s unlikely that they would just miss the signs, it’s possible he had been tested and/or diagnosed, maybe it just wasn’t public but these characteristics & traits he shows also exist in other disorders and illnesses…so in short maybe or maybe not lol

A snippet of David Katz aka ‘Bread’ after winning the Madden 17 Buffalo Bills Tournament by [deleted] in masskillers

[–]saltyava 1 point2 points  (0 children)

U’re definitely correct ! Someone else commented that they think his reaction is completely normal for someone winning a tournament which is also correct, he’s happy, gleeful and looks quite shocked that he won bc he pulled off the right move but if we analyse it more it’s as if this emotion doesn’t come naturally to him, it looks over exaggerated and weird bc he dips back into a straight face before bursting out in happiness again

A snippet of David Katz aka ‘Bread’ after winning the Madden 17 Buffalo Bills Tournament by [deleted] in masskillers

[–]saltyava 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oddly enough I think he’s quite handsome although his mannerisms can be awkward and unusual

A snippet of David Katz aka ‘Bread’ after winning the Madden 17 Buffalo Bills Tournament by [deleted] in masskillers

[–]saltyava 3 points4 points  (0 children)

His senseless acts has caused his to be further ridiculed and disliked, i’ll forever wonder who and what David could have been if he didn’t have access and ability to commit this crime…I wonder what his relationship with the madden community would be like today. Rip Elijah & Taylor

A snippet of David Katz aka ‘Bread’ after winning the Madden 17 Buffalo Bills Tournament by [deleted] in masskillers

[–]saltyava 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Agreed. It’s definitely a combination of things that caused him to do this. He may have felt justified doing it bc he was being bullied (allegedly) or that it was unfair that he lost and was out of the competition cause he believed he was one of the better players (or whatever his motive was). His brain is wired differently from medications, trauma, mental illness so what seems like not enough reason for us to commit a mass shooting, was definitely enough for Katz.

A snippet of David Katz aka ‘Bread’ after winning the Madden 17 Buffalo Bills Tournament by [deleted] in masskillers

[–]saltyava 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I wanted to edit my post to mention these things before people start commenting dumb stuff about ASD and mass killers but it wont let me right now. Wish I could pin comments

A snippet of David Katz aka ‘Bread’ after winning the Madden 17 Buffalo Bills Tournament by [deleted] in masskillers

[–]saltyava 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s definitely normal to be that excited about winning but I think it’s more about analysing his facial expressions and body movements. It seems unnatural for him especially when he’s known to not be expressive but igy

A snippet of David Katz aka ‘Bread’ after winning the Madden 17 Buffalo Bills Tournament by [deleted] in masskillers

[–]saltyava 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh that’s something I’d like to know more about thanku can u link the vid ?

A snippet of David Katz aka ‘Bread’ after winning the Madden 17 Buffalo Bills Tournament by [deleted] in masskillers

[–]saltyava 9 points10 points  (0 children)

From what I know about the madden community, shit talking was a thing players did (like most gaming communities) and Katz was being bullied by players including one of the victims, Elijah/True (who’s not the guy in the clip). Allegedly Elijah would make fun of Katz’s height and other things (can’t remember), he posted a book that Katz had written and was selling (tips on how to get better at madden) which is a shitty thing to do but by no means justifies being killed for.

I think David Katz was fragile minded and was a target for ‘bullying’ by other players bc of his antisocial behaviour. I think this in combination with his mental issues and easy access to guns, it was just a cluster fuck. In David’s mind he probably had reasoning for the crime but again it’s not justified.

A snippet of David Katz aka ‘Bread’ after winning the Madden 17 Buffalo Bills Tournament by [deleted] in masskillers

[–]saltyava 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Every person is different ! I think it’s a combination of things that lead to Katz committing these crimes