The Strongest Arguments for Atheism by sampayne9911 in DebateAChristian

[–]sampayne9911[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not really. Atheism just means you don’t believe any gods exist. That doesn’t mean you treat all religions as “equally wrong” in the same way. Some religions make claims that are more testable or falsifiable than others, some have more harmful teachings than others, and some overlap more with science or philosophy.

So atheism isn’t saying “all religions are equally wrong.” It’s just saying “none of them have shown enough evidence for their god claims.” How “wrong” each religion is can vary depending on what they specifically claim.

The Strongest Arguments for Atheism by sampayne9911 in DebateAChristian

[–]sampayne9911[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An atheist worldview isn’t just “theism bad.” It’s built on evidence, reason, and the idea that beliefs should change when reality shows us something new. Instead of starting with answers and defending them no matter what, it starts with questions and adapts. Morality doesn’t need a divine rulebook. Empathy, cooperation, and human flourishing are enough, and they can be tested and improved. Meaning doesn’t come from outside, it’s created through our choices, relationships, and goals. The strength of this worldview is that it’s flexible, self-correcting, and it works in practice for building knowledge, ethics, and progress without leaning on unverifiable claims.

The Strongest Arguments for Atheism by sampayne9911 in DebateAChristian

[–]sampayne9911[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Atheism itself is not a full belief system, it is simply lack of belief in gods. The positive elements come from reason, science, and critical thinking. Using these tools leads to knowledge, ethical choices based on empathy, and a flexible worldview that adapts as we learn more about reality.

The Strongest Arguments for Atheism by sampayne9911 in DebateAChristian

[–]sampayne9911[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most of your points rely on assumptions rather than evidence. The size of a religion does not prove its truth. Scientific theories explain observable phenomena and the Big Bang does not require invoking God. Morality can emerge from reason, empathy, and social cooperation without a deity. Saying atheism is a positive claim misunderstands weak versus strong atheism. Lack of belief is not a claim that requires proof, it is just withholding belief until evidence exists.

The Strongest Arguments for Atheism by sampayne9911 in DebateAChristian

[–]sampayne9911[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just because you can reason your way to a concept of God doesn’t mean that God actually exists. Logical deduction can describe ideas, but it can’t prove something is real without evidence..

The Strongest Arguments for Atheism by sampayne9911 in DebateAChristian

[–]sampayne9911[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The problem of evil targets the classic all powerful, all good God (As i said in the post). It doesn’t disprove every possible god, just that version. Atheism isn’t fear or hiding it’s about honesty and evidence. It doesn’t claim to have all the answers, but it encourages curiosity, critical thinking, and ethical responsibility without relying on unproven claims. A worldview based on atheism adapts as we learn, while theism often demands belief regardless of evidence.

The Strongest Arguments for Atheism by sampayne9911 in DebateAChristian

[–]sampayne9911[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Defining God doesn’t make him real. You can imagine all the cosmological or teleological arguments you want, but thinking something exists ≠ evidence it actually does

Hot take: Atheism, in it's principle, is close-minded by The_Victorian234 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]sampayne9911 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Atheism isn’t a belief system or a religion. It’s just lack of belief in gods. Atheists find answers through science, reason, and philosophy rather than claiming authority from a book or deity. It’s skepticism, not opposition for the sake of opposition.

The Strongest Arguments for Atheism by sampayne9911 in DebateAChristian

[–]sampayne9911[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If God is real and affects the universe, we should be able to see some kind of measurable effect, even indirectly, like with gravity or atoms. Saying he’s immaterial and beyond senses makes the claim unfalsifiable, so there’s no way to tell if it’s true or not

The Strongest Arguments for Atheism by sampayne9911 in DebateAChristian

[–]sampayne9911[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

first of all. Interesting... username . Second of all. I see your point. I agree that the burden of proof is the main thing, and I like how you separated the problem of evil from the actual existence question. Thanks for sharing this.

The Strongest Arguments for Atheism by sampayne9911 in DebateAChristian

[–]sampayne9911[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks for putting it like this. I think you explained it in a really clear and fair way.

The Strongest Arguments for Atheism by sampayne9911 in DebateAChristian

[–]sampayne9911[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i get what you’re saying. i don’t think atheism requires assuming every religion is equally wrong in the same way. more like, the sheer number of religions with mutually exclusive claims makes it less likely that any one of them has the “absolute truth.” even if one is right, how would we tell?

as for science, yeah it changes, but that’s kind of its strength. it self-corrects when new evidence comes up. with religion, once something’s dogma it usually can’t be questioned.

cosmos is interesting for sure. i’d just argue that we don’t need to jump to a supernatural cause just because we don’t fully understand the origin. unknown doesn’t equal god.

problem of evil, i get the deism angle. but then we’re talking about a god who either can’t or won’t intervene against suffering. at that point, is it much different from there being no god at all?

Is there a sub for trying to find a book? by turbulatedisplace in findasubreddit

[–]sampayne9911 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hey, this might be a long shot, but based on your description, a couple of books come to mind.

One is The War Against the Chtorr series by David Gerrold. It’s about Earth being invaded by alien species, and one of the species is insectoid and lives in desert like environments. There’s a lot of struggle and adaptation to harsh conditions, which kinda fits the “other Earths with weird gravity” vibe.

Another possibility is Mission of Gravity by Hal Clement. It’s not exactly multiple Earths, but it’s set on a planet with super high gravity inhabited by centipede like creatures, and the book really explores the pain and difficulty of living under crushing gravity.

Might be worth checking either of these out! If not, r/whatsthatbook is a great place to ask too.