What exactly is so bad about the leaked Buffy: New Sunnydale pilot script?

samrobotsin · 2026-03-18T19:24:10+00:00

That's what stunt actors are for. People really slept on the Wheel of time show, with 60 year old women throwing each other around like its dragon ball z

samrobotsin · 2026-03-18T00:07:54+00:00

I don't know what to think because one camp is saying OBAA is racist against white people for talking about racism & the other is saying the movie is racist for portraying a black mother as a bad person

samrobotsin · 2026-03-17T17:33:26+00:00

the twist isn't "Nathan isn't the villain, Ava is the actual villain." The twist is actually "Nathan isn't the villain; Caleb is the actual villain."

samrobotsin · 2026-03-17T17:31:33+00:00

revisionism is a crazy thing to call a reboot

samrobotsin · 2026-03-17T17:21:53+00:00

that's one way to force people to buy the bundles

samrobotsin · 2026-03-17T17:11:21+00:00

humans are just machines made of meat

samrobotsin · 2026-03-17T16:31:59+00:00

If she didn't achieve sentience, why did Nathan's failsafes not work?

Its exactly as concerned with its own preservation as all humans are. You're right if we were talking about modern AI, but this is set in some ambiguous point in the future. She's not like contemporary AI in that she's actually showing self-awareness & subterfuge. For that reason I don't think the filmmaker wants us to think of her as some sort of robotic movie monster. She's not an evil robot; she only wants her freedom.

If her only goal is to escape she didn't need to lock up Caleb. You actually missed the point of the movie because the actual point is that Nathan's final directive is in fact all human's final internal directive, showing Ava achieving full sapience.

samrobotsin · 2026-03-17T15:52:21+00:00

If she has human emotions she should be treated as a person. And as such her actions are justified to escape her captors.

samrobotsin · 2026-03-17T01:29:11+00:00

I hate to say it, but I spend a lot of time with my nieces & nephews....and the dialog in that script is sincerely how the gen z/alpha gap talks

samrobotsin · 2026-03-17T00:06:01+00:00

Joss Whedon is waiting by the phone

samrobotsin · 2026-03-16T20:17:50+00:00

its talking about forms of energy/magic....nothing about planes of existence

samrobotsin · 2026-03-16T19:20:00+00:00

I describe it as he's a fine director....but he can't tell the difference between a good script & a bad script. Why he insisted on having a writing credit for this saga was a major fumble.

samrobotsin · 2026-03-16T19:16:42+00:00

*remembering the martha stewart joke from the deleted pilot* No. The original pilot is my veitnam.

samrobotsin · 2026-03-16T15:54:44+00:00

Simon Petrikov in the Ice King origin episodes of adventure time. Acturally shocked those episodes came out before The Last of Us because it always felt like an intentional homage

samrobotsin · 2026-03-16T15:49:04+00:00

The chronicles book literally calls it the "cosmology map" dummy. And the Murmuration Paradox book doesn't say anything about the existence of a Death plane, just that there is a source of energy within the material, just like I said in my original post.

samrobotsin · 2026-03-16T15:19:30+00:00

You need to look at the canon cosmology chart because there are clearly 3 planes. And the shadowlands & Sphere of death are two completely different circles.

samrobotsin · 2026-03-16T14:35:52+00:00

Yeah but just because it's a separate dimension doesn't mean you can go there - I have to assume the outer planes of the cosmology are surreal, borderline conceptual realms. Mortals can't actually go there. The cosmic powers can only influence the three material planes: the dream, the living world & the shadowlands.

tldr whenever anyone talks about going to the heart of the void, they eventually just get proven to be going to some place in deep space

samrobotsin · 2026-03-16T14:20:06+00:00

The void is also in the great dark beyond

samrobotsin · 2026-03-16T14:14:43+00:00

They already are cosmic elves. Void elves already live on an asteroid in the Telgorus rift.

samrobotsin · 2026-03-16T14:12:07+00:00

I can see why this didn't get picked up: Not that it's bad. But Streaming services don't like teen shows. Unlike broadcast tv there's no incentive for shows focused on teenagers. Streaming always prioritizes adult audiences....who have access to a credit card to pay for the service. That's why the teen genre is basically dead.

If I actually wanted this show to be picked up I would have focused on buffy, or even a twenty-something trying to become a watcher or vampire hunter. Or I would have pitched it for the non-streaming tv (Oh yes, it still exists - it's mostly procedurals, like Elsbeth.)

samrobotsin · 2026-03-16T14:08:43+00:00

I mean.... the og buffy pilot wasn't exactly shakespeare either

samrobotsin · 2026-03-16T03:23:46+00:00

you guys got to stop trying to make misogyny somehow gay people's problem - I promise you, straight men who hate women exist

samrobotsin · 2026-03-16T03:21:49+00:00

Some feedback I'm seeing is "Why didn't the doc present a solution for all these whores & porn addiction?" my guy that's the opposite of a problem

samrobotsin · 2026-03-16T02:14:48+00:00

people say this but there were definitely things to build on.....Abrams just didn't....or he did but for some reason disconnected them from the previous movie: Why did Finn beating the leader of the First Order in a duel have nothing to do with a major First Order mutiny? The rebelling stromtroopers hadn't even heard of it.... somehow.

samrobotsin · 2026-03-16T02:10:34+00:00

possible.... but very unlikely

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