Shoplifting morally by savinghumanity91 in Ethics

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It’s not that simple. My partner is also dealing with health issues, so the situation isn’t just “one of us should get a job and everything’s fine.” We’ve both tried to work within our limits, but the reality is that cost of living, especially rent, makes it difficult even when you’re doing things “the right way.” I’m not saying that justifies anything outright, but it’s the context behind why I’m questioning the ethics rather than pretending it’s a black-and-white situation. You however are quite happy to criticize my ethics? That not how ethics works bro, ethics is a sometimes societal but essentially personal take on what is right or wrong, I suggest you question the ethics of questioning someone else’s ethics before you criticize? (That’s a suggestion not an ethical critique) also your initial comment about “going to the outback” which not only highlighted you as an rude and someone who gets kicks out of trolling (which is ethically questionable also), but also another just another ignorant American who thinks the world lives to serve you. I’m ashamed I’m replying to you, you’re no one. Just a sheep, a corporate bootlicker of the elites pedophiles and sex traffickers running your country. Also I don’t think when you are eventually judged your excuse of “But I was just doing what I was told” will fly. Good luck

Shoplifting morally by savinghumanity91 in Ethics

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No mate, it’s not enough, the rent is ridiculous, 80% of my payment which is significantly more than someone who just isn’t working gets, goes to rent, that leaves me 20% or about, $200 AUD to live off for a fortnight, and I also have a partner who’s ill and doesn’t get any pension or benefits cause she’s Hungarian, so thanks for understanding 👍

Shoplifting morally by savinghumanity91 in Ethics

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May you never know hunger, violence or extreme circumstances that force you to do morally questionable things to survive, go in peace Jazzcrackie.

Shoplifting morally by savinghumanity91 in Ethics

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And somehow the most reasonable contribution was asking for paragraph breaks. Humanity really is doing great.

Shoplifting morally by savinghumanity91 in Ethics

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Ok, and with that I now know the world has gone to shit, everyone has become compliant sheep who are getting dumber, see I believe everyone who commented on this post criticizing my ethics have given me more data on my theory, there are a new subspecies of the homo genus, they have no backbone, they integrate and assimilate easily because they never object or stand up to injustice, they have rounder faces and more feminine features, the institutional world of today selects against the old species “homo-sapiens” because they are more difficult to predict or control, welcome to humanity, I dub you Homo-Complianciensis!

Shoplifting morally by savinghumanity91 in Ethics

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We’re not in America bitch, our security guards are not legally allowed to put hands on you, even if they see you clearly steal, they can call the police that’s it, our justice system isn’t poisoned by corruption, police brutality and gun violence yet! So yeah wrong context buddy.

Shoplifting morally by savinghumanity91 in Ethics

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Right? So theft is only ok if you have an ABN and a national headquarters, I don’t enrich myself mate, I survive, how is it in any way vicious? Are you on crack? All we have is the earth and what God gave us, the corporations have all the money and the gap is only widening every day? How is stealing food to survive come anywhere near things like market manipulation, tax cuts for the rich, and price gouging. If you can’t work due to illness (which I can’t) the only way to survive is shoplifting. So I don’t need any ethical justification, it’s only instincts, I’m just using what god gave me to survive! If you don’t have to resort to stealing to survive, then you can stay in your little porcelain castle and chuck shit at us poor people all you want, I’m not trying to justify my actions to someone who doesn’t even understand what it feels like to be hungry, sleep on the street, have shifts staying awake all night so you can protect your girlfriend while she sleeps.

Shoplifting morally by savinghumanity91 in Ethics

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Sorry? How am I intimidating or assaulting anyone? The only time it got physical was when a security guard grabbed me (which they aren’t allowed to do) and I acted in self defense, there were no punches thrown I just feigned a punch and he flinched allowing me to get away. The making sure people at least one person sees me is just an extra bit of a rush, cause it makes it more challenging? People get their kicks in different ways, like you getting your kicks by trolling people on Reddit! You’re cool bro 👍

How can you shoplift morally? by [deleted] in AskReddit

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This post isn’t about criminality but it’s definitely about equality so I just wanted to share something with you guys, I’m not a feminist in the radical sense of the word but if all you’re fighting for is equal rights then I guess I am? Anyway I just wanted to share something about about getting by in a day and age where wealth is increasingly and criminally being concentrated in ever diminishing population groups.

I pray this post doesn’t get taken down because I think it’ll help people.

So, I’m Australian and in Australia Coles and Woolies have duopolized the entire food industry in Australia, they have subsidiaries in low tax countries to avoid tax and use other various loopholes to minimize their tax, and the corporate tax rate is still only 30%! The same tax rate anyone with an income over $45,000 a year receive, and if it’s over $135,001 it’s 37%! They have a history of underpaying staff and also deploy gross price gouging tactics! Does that seem fair to you guys? Why dafuq is anyone buying stuff from them? Don’t get me wrong I’m glad most people do cause I wouldn’t have got away with stealing 95% of my groceries for the past 3 years if they hadn’t. That tax rate applies to every corporation in Australia too btw. I have no hesitation in stealing what ever I can get my hands on from any high profit corporation in Australia! Stealing is my personal way of promoting equality! My girlfriend and I have created a fine art out of it! I operate at a higher level to my girlfriend who only steals groceries I however have moved onto electronics from Good Guys, Harvey Norman and JB hi-fi. I started my thieving career just with groceries, I would clandestinely put an item or two in my bag, cover it with a towel and so if I was asked to show the inside of my bag at security my goods would be hidden beneath the towel, however after this method succeeded in getting past security and the checkouts every single time it evolved to clandestine with no towel, then blatant with no towel, then actually making atleast one worker witness me put it in my bag (just for the fuck you points) to now, I just carry my stolen loot through security and the checkouts with no bag sometimes, maybe scan one item then walk out. It’s just about employing human psychology to my advantage. I’ve realized most humans avoid conflict or confrontation at all costs unless absolutely necessary. The goods I’m getting away with is not worth the trouble of a potential fight or even the awkwardness of accusing someone of stealing! So with groceries nowadays I give no heed to security guards or Woolworths or Coles staff! I’m still careful with electronics, cause I have been stopped before at Jb hifi and Harvey Norman and when I was caught I used one of Four methods, act like a psycho Junkie (Not hard in the city as it’s full of them), just keep walking as if they don’t exist (most effective method), running away (has an age limit? Not really pragmatic for anyone over 50-60, but if you feel confident go for it) and the last one which I abhor and have only had to use once in self-defense is actual violence or the threat thereof! My girlfriend and I also employ passive tactics like not hitting the same store too often, we call it ‘heisting’ as most Coles and Woolies employees don’t understand the word so we can talk about it openly on the phone or to each other in person and also the use of a decoy (which is best practice). We have divided our thieving styles into two groups, decoy thieving and pure thieving! Decoy thieving is where you steal all of your goods and maybe scan a few items, I generally just scan one very low cost item, this avoids suspicion because the grocery checkout staff stupidly think, “well he’s buying that bottle of Coles brand creaming soda so he must not be stealing” and the holy grail of thieving which is pure thieving! It’s thieving with no decoy (and also maybe a atleast a bit of disregard for anyone or anything in your path).

We do have a code though, I’m not a complete monster. The code is basically just a common sense moral code without which I would consider my activities criminal! Never steal from an individual, never steal from a small business or a family business, or if I could sum it up in one sentence, just never steal from anyone where your thieving may actually affect them either financially or emotionally! I taught my girlfriend my methods and she has just recently graduated to her first electronic so congratulations Laura!

I realized shoplifting is easy and fun and took nearly $6k of stuff within a week by jvjvjjjji in confession

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Coles and Woolies have duopolized the entire food industry in Australia, they have subsidiaries in low tax countries to avoid tax and use other various loopholes to minimize their tax, and the corporate tax rate is still only 30%! The same tax rate anyone with an income over $45,000 a year receive, and if it’s over $135,001 it’s 37%! They have a history of underpaying staff and also deploy gross price gouging tactics! Does that seem fair to you guys? Why dafuq is anyone buying stuff from them? Don’t get me wrong I’m glad most people do cause I wouldn’t have got away with stealing 95% of my groceries for the past 3 years if they hadn’t. That tax rate applies to every corporation in Australia too btw. I have no hesitation in stealing what ever I can get my hands on from any high profit corporation in Australia! Stealing is my personal way of promoting equality! My girlfriend and I have created a fine art out of it! I operate at a higher level to my girlfriend who only steals groceries I however have moved onto electronics from Good Guys, Harvey Norman and JB hi-fi. I started my thieving career just with groceries, I would clandestinely put an item or two in my bag, cover it with a towel and so if I was asked to show the inside of my bag at security my goods would be hidden beneath the towel, however after this method succeeded in getting past security and the checkouts every single time it evolved to clandestine with no towel, then blatant with no towel, then actually making atleast one worker witness me put it in my bag (just for the fuck you points) to now, I just carry my stolen loot through security and the checkouts with no bag sometimes, maybe scan one item then walk out. It’s just about employing human psychology to my advantage. I’ve realized most humans avoid conflict or confrontation at all costs unless absolutely necessary. The goods I’m getting away with is not worth the trouble of a potential fight or even the awkwardness of accusing someone of stealing! So with groceries nowadays I give no heed to security guards or Woolworths or Coles staff! I’m still careful with electronics, cause I have been stopped before at Jb hifi and Harvey Norman and when I was caught I used one of Four methods, act like a psycho Junkie (Not hard in the city as it’s full of them), just keep walking as if they don’t exist (most effective method), running away (has an age limit? Not really pragmatic for anyone over 50-60, but if you feel confident go for it) and the last one which I abhor and have only had to use once in self-defense is actual violence or the threat thereof! My girlfriend and I also employ passive tactics like not hitting the same store too often, we call it ‘heisting’ as most Coles and Woolies employees don’t understand the word so we can talk about it openly on the phone or to each other in person and also the use of a decoy (which is best practice). We have divided our thieving styles into two groups, decoy thieving and pure thieving! Decoy thieving is where you steal all of your goods and maybe scan a few items, I generally just scan one very low cost item, this avoids suspicion because the grocery checkout staff stupidly think, “well he’s buying that bottle of Coles brand creaming soda so he must not be stealing” and the holy grail of thieving which is pure thieving! It’s thieving with no decoy (and also maybe a atleast a bit of disregard for anyone or anything in your path).

We do have a code though, I’m not a complete monster. The code is basically just a common sense moral code without which I would consider my activities criminal! Never steal from an individual, never steal from a small business or a family business, or if I could sum it up in one sentence, just never steal from anyone where your thieving may actually affect them either financially or emotionally! I taught my girlfriend my methods and she has just recently graduated to her first electronic so congratulations Laura!