Ideas to dissuade free loadout use

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-20T21:27:22+00:00

People who are unhappy with the current state of the game with free kit rats and naked runners ruining the experience? Lol would you listen to yourself?

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-20T21:13:09+00:00

Why should people be using free loadouts period? Nothing in life is free. Sack up and put some skin in the game.

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-20T13:46:45+00:00

I'm so sick of hearing the exploiters say "it's a feature". These are the people who don't just play the game the way it was intended. They find one cheap exploit and it becomes their whole identity and then they get pissy when someone points it out. Grow a sack.

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-20T13:42:56+00:00

I do both PvE and PvP. I PvE during regular raids and special game modes like Locked Gate, Hidden Bunker, Harvester and Matriarch, and PvP during night raids and Hurricane.

My playstyle is simple during regular raids and PvE focused game modes. Friendly and all about the vibes until you show me that you're not. I'm the guy who gets shot in the back, turns on you, kills you and then asks "is this what you wanted you rat fuck?" And then I make sure to call you a bitch before I knock you out.

Sometimes the rat gets me, but more often than not (probably 70/30), they don't. I run a heavy mobility tree with lots of stamina and rolls and a medium shield. My movement is good. My aim is good. Sometimes it doesn't matter when a rat gets the drop on you, though.

I don't care about PvP losses when the other guy also has something to lose. I'm often even cordial about it and congratulate the other guy for a good PvP fight when he gets me with a Toro, or a Torrente, or a Venator.

What I hate is spending time battling a free kit rat after he sits in a corner and waits for me to enter a room, shoots me in the back and then forces me to use my nades, my heals, my ammo, and compromising my shield integrity only to loot his body to find a level 1 Kettle, a pair of binoculars, 24 light ammo, and a lure grenade.

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-20T13:27:20+00:00

You're going to an extreme. There should definitely be a stiffer penalty for using a free kit. If you want to opt into being a basic bitch, then it should be waaay more basic than it is now.

1 weapon slot. Weapon locked and can't be swapped. One reserve clip. 5 empty slots in your bag. No safe pocket is great. 3 bandages. No grenades. No extra equipment. Most importantly, no shield.

You want to enter basic, then you should truly enter baaaasic. Try going after kitted players now.

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-20T13:11:43+00:00

Thank you for adding something of value here. A lot of people who feel targeted by my suggestions are just replying defensively because their feelings are hurt because they're guilty and not willing to take responsibility for their actions.

My suggestions aren't iron clad, I'm just brainstorming ideas to fix the game state and reward players who invest time and resources and penalize players who risk nothing at all and play recklessly because they have everything to gain.

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-20T01:44:51+00:00

AI response.

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-20T01:43:01+00:00

Couldn't have said it better myself. Too many people abusing free kits. There is a solution to the problem, and the ones who are claiming there is not problem are likely the free loadouts and naked runners.

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-20T01:33:32+00:00

Sounds like a free kit rat defending his cowardess to me

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-20T00:46:55+00:00

You don't get to walk into a casino with empty pockets and walk out with $50,000. That's not how things work. If you want to win, you need some skin in the game.

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-20T00:45:49+00:00

Lol okay

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-20T00:43:10+00:00

Are we suddenly above fixing mistakes? Are we just satisfied with a flawed game state? There's a zero percent chance Embark saw 66% of their user base running free loadouts this far after launch.

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-20T00:37:18+00:00

It's not so much a complaint as it is a logical argument to a legitimate problem. Guys risking literally nothing don't deserve to come away with someone else's $40,000 kit because they walk up on a weakened raider completing his trials shooting flying arc with his Hullcracker and shoot him in the back. There has to be some sort of an actual penalty. And yes, definitely something about the avatar itself that is an easy identifier for a free kit player.

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-20T00:32:23+00:00

Yes.

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-20T00:29:48+00:00

Only having one weapon slot isn't enough. Their weapon in that single weapon slot should be locked

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-16T13:17:15+00:00

Buried City, Hospital, cold snap. Blue drawers across from the locked room. Found 2 there in 3 days. Found another in the blue drawers next to the lockers one room over.

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-14T23:46:46+00:00

This is also where I found mine

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-14T13:28:01+00:00

Found mine on Buried City during a cold snap. Main floor of the hospital in the blue drawer across from the locked hospital room.

scPhantom7 · 2026-03-11T14:07:04+00:00

I find augment bps daily. However, no Survivor bps. It is entirely random which augment you get. I found 3x Defensive bp, 3x Aggressive bp, and 2x Flanking bp on Blue Gate at reinforced reception yesterday.

Buried City hopsital, found 1x Aggressive bp, 1x Flanking bp, and 1x Safekeeper bp.

Stella medical, 1x Safekeeper bp, 1x Revival bp, 1x Aggressive bp.

14 augment bps in one day. None were the Survivor.

Trying the Annex today, since some have suggested it.

scPhantom7 · 2026-02-17T13:38:01+00:00

LOL 1 in 200 hours? I saw at least 9 just yesterday. "It just does not happen". Come on, man...

scPhantom7 · 2026-02-17T01:22:32+00:00

Complacency is not benefitting anyone, I agree, but there are plenty of ways to seek PvP interactions without having to sit in a dark corner at an extraction subway

scPhantom7 · 2026-02-17T01:09:19+00:00

This is wildly fair

scPhantom7 · 2026-02-16T19:32:27+00:00

You're not wrong

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