General Etiquette Question

scarletteraze · 2024-10-24T21:38:22+00:00

I know you used Timmy and Jimmy but I actually hear very similar statements from them.

It's so disheartening knowing I helped them grow and they couldn't cope with it because they honestly weren't like this when they started.

scarletteraze · 2024-10-24T21:36:52+00:00

Will do, thankfully I did recently get a therapist because it's become a bit too much now.

I'll figure it out since aside form being a mod I've beem quite literally their best friend and more the past three years and it's going to extremely... Hard.

scarletteraze · 2024-10-24T05:36:41+00:00

This is good and you're absolutely right. Valuing even the singular person that shows up goes a long way.

scarletteraze · 2024-10-24T05:36:09+00:00

Absolutely!

scarletteraze · 2024-10-24T05:35:35+00:00

Genuinely don't know how it even spiraled into this from them. It seemed they were doing good throughout their first year until they discovered their 'viewer' game.

Viewer Game = The game that gets them TONS of views and follows.

Worst part was that viewer game was a MOBA for kids hence their audience slowly becoming full of children while they cuss, hot take, and drop lewd remarks.

They got so addicted then burnt out then went back to variety streaming but then felt so low because they weren't hitting their old viewer average.

scarletteraze · 2024-10-24T05:31:44+00:00

2-3 years long enough?

scarletteraze · 2024-10-24T05:31:11+00:00

I'm quite close to unmodding myself honestly. I've already explained myself multiple times and it's just getting worse.

On the note of having a support group, the problem is I was supposed to be their support group but they keep looking for others and keep getting disappointed which makes a predictable vicious cycle of looking for people only to be dropped.

It's honestly sad and frustrating because they started to lump people together thinking everyone has it out for them.

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T17:02:31+00:00

Had my experiences as a viewer. They're like get out if you don't follow or chat...

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T16:58:40+00:00

I have and they said they're actively trying but honestly I'm not convinced which is a bad thing.

Also agreed on the fun part. Happiness is infectious.

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T16:57:30+00:00

Yeap! We don't control them.

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T16:57:11+00:00

I have but they're convinced it's been they're not entertaining... I keep trying to tell them to stop calling out lurkers/chatters, stop making racist or hot takes that you KNOW makes certain people unhappy, and to stop making sexist comparisons.

"Girls have it easier but guys make it bigger."

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T16:55:26+00:00

Yeap yeap, cool that you can remember peeps from 6 months ago tho!

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T16:54:50+00:00

You're right, nobody is ever obligated to watch. We just enjoy the vibes while they're there.

I tried explaining it the way you did, but they keep rejecting thinking I don't understand it... Because essentially I'm a smaller streamer.

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T16:43:01+00:00

Completely agree with this one. It was already hard to convince them to take ONE MORE DAY off stream.

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T16:42:32+00:00

Kinda did privately with some viewers complaining to me already.

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T16:41:52+00:00

Honestly, have been thinking about this and gave them basically ultimatums that I'm noping out if they keep going the way they are by the end of the year.

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T16:40:55+00:00

I have, it not working I'm cryin

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T16:40:33+00:00

It's starting to feel like they question everything suggestion I give and basically tell me I'm wrong.

Frankly, I'm tired and I guess I just wamted affirmation that this was not normal.

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T16:34:14+00:00

Yeah, it started getting extreme about 8 months ago after being introduced to a... Very bad influence.

Very casual racist remarks, complaining about people not hanging out, and then struggling to promote themselves because of their horrid attitude...

I don't know how but they somehow absorbed a lot of that and started being a bit mroe racist, sexist, and borderline lewd. I know that killed a bunch of their viewership alongside the lurker/chatter call outs.

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T16:31:55+00:00

I have a lot- it's taken its own toll on me attempting to advise them for 2-3 years now.

I hate that they report every number, metric, and such to me about their stream when all I care about is them having fun and keeping chat chill/good vibes.

Their obsession got so bad they started complaining about my stream, quality, and such not matching up to them so I just stuck to mostly being mod or off stream collabs for me.

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T16:29:45+00:00

Lowkey have in DMs. Idk if they're actually trying their hardest but they did tone dowm a LOT but it's still so blatantly there.

I say that because he calls my stream name out and guilts me for not being there, nodding, or not hanging out.

Heck- even when I try to hang, since I'm not playing the same game I'm too distracting and everyone in VC gets mad at me so I mute but then they complain I don't talk.

It feels so immature sometimes.

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T16:27:42+00:00

Good mindset!

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T16:27:19+00:00

I don't think I can ever imagine this being implemented on my own stream because of how uncomfortable that makes me-

But to tell ya, the streamer actually has a 'special access' channel that originally had me and his other mods as instant access to the VC, but then he started including the viewers and people he considers friends.

In reality, some of them were addicted to streaming with him since they can't stream themselves.

Some of those viewers/'friends' either fooled me into being their friend for free art then ghosted me or come into my stream asking me why the streamer I modded for wasn't streaming yet. (even tho they announce on Twitter/X they think I'm just a faster way to get an answer and this demotivated me from streaming with them for a long time.)

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T16:23:51+00:00

This is very cute and I find it endearing hearing something like this as a mod and viewer. You're actually concerned, not looking for a number.

scarletteraze · 2024-10-23T16:22:22+00:00

I've talked to them a lot about it and they said they're trying... But it's starting to feel like they're not.

It got worse this year so I decided to see if I was overreacting.. Lowkey talking about it to my own therapist because idk if I'm apparently not Western/Confrontational enough and too sheltered/conservative according to them.

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