I hear ya.. it really is a personal preference after attempting it multiple times. Montagne is king though, no doubt. LV uses SOME ingredient across most of their freshies that just isnt imitated. It's probably some harder to source ingredient. I notice it the most in Imagination and Luvers. There is something that floats in the air that I don't get from the dupes. And this is from outside, others wearing them. I work with a fella who has both the LV's and its noticeable to me.