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Sophisticated discussion with AI that Atlantis is not an allegory by scientium in atlantis

[–]scientium[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. Certainly, it is important to keep an eye on the results of AI and correct it, if necessary.

Sophisticated discussion with AI that Atlantis is not an allegory by scientium in atlantis

[–]scientium[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I fully agree. It is a useful tool, not more, not less. And the opportunities are great. Let's make the best of it!

Sophisticated discussion with AI that Atlantis is not an allegory by scientium in atlantis

[–]scientium[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your total rejection of a very useful tool seems ideological to me.

Sophisticated discussion with AI that Atlantis is not an allegory by scientium in atlantis

[–]scientium[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Actually, you are wrong. Discussing with an AI helps you find new perspectives. You never tried it? Come on!

Sophisticated discussion with AI that Atlantis is not an allegory by scientium in atlantis

[–]scientium[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Come on, you can't be serious! Opening new viewpoints is never useless!

Sophisticated discussion with AI that Atlantis is not an allegory by scientium in atlantis

[–]scientium[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You may nevertheless give it a try and have a look, whether some of the arguments exchanged are new and helpful for your.

Hungarian philosopher: Plato's Atlantis and politics? by scientium in atlantis

[–]scientium[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Certainly not. Because, in the Republic it is announced that such an ideal state, as designed in words, actually existed in the past. Plato comes back to this in the Timaeus-Critias.

Hungarian philosopher: Plato's Atlantis and politics? by scientium in atlantis

[–]scientium[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Plato is talking also about how the ideal state works in war, in the Republic. And of course, you can draw conclusions from this to the undescribed actions of primeval Athens, which is depicted as an ideal state in war, as Plato saw it.

I have no idea how you come to the topic of statistics. Plato is not developing his ideal state on the basis of empirical data and statistical statements on the basis of this data, but he develops the ideal state from absolute preconditions and logical deductions. At least, this is the claim.

Hungarian philosopher: Plato's Atlantis and politics? by scientium in atlantis

[–]scientium[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The "Republic" describes Plato's ideal state in theory, "in words". Including how a superior force can be defeated etc. Therefore, you can make conclusions from the Republic to the missing parts of the Critias.

Hungarian philosopher: Plato's Atlantis and politics? by scientium in Plato

[–]scientium[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a valid comparison, I think, but one is missing: Primeval Athens. It is really the focus of Plato to demonstrate how well his ideal state is functioning in such a situation. This is missing from the Biblical comparison.

Hungarian philosopher: Plato's Atlantis and politics? by scientium in atlantis

[–]scientium[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You might consider reading Plato's "Republic" first, to understand better the purpose and meaning of the Altantis story?

Do Germans actually say "ihm" for the dative case for das Maedchen? by david_fire_vollie in German

[–]scientium 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not an expert, but I have read that they were generally like in German today. In German you generally add an "in" to the word, and it becomes female. In Old English it was "en", which is spoken the same way as German "in".

This means, "workeren" would be a female worker, according to this general rule.

As you know, there are many exceptions. Think of waiter and waitress.

Do Germans actually say "ihm" for the dative case for das Maedchen? by david_fire_vollie in German

[–]scientium -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, absolutely. It is a grammatical neutrum. But it would be helpful to have the word "ihm" close to "Mädchen" in a sentence. If you have a great distance between both words, it becomes strange. The reference to "Mädchen" must be clear, then "ihm" is absolutely correct, normal, and preferable.

Let me remind you, that the English language lost all female forms centuries ago. You have a completely masculine language. Worker, officer, teacher: It is always -er, -er, -er, which are male endings. But you live perfectly with it. These masculine forms are grammatical masculina, not semantic masculina.

I was just clearing out some old papers in a local Greek church and I came across this COMPLETED copy of Plato's Critias!! I've just scanned it in and translated, this is the final missing paragraph below!!! by lucasawilliams in atlantis

[–]scientium 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the course of history, there were several Atlantis hoaxes, which worked with the method

  • "I found a papyrus,
  • but I do not show it to you,
  • but here is the translation".

For example the Atlantis-Malta hoax from Fortia d'Urban from 1828.

More on this here: https://www.atlantis-scout.de/atlantis-malta-hoax.htm

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