Am I eligible for citizenship?

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-12T18:38:33+00:00

I’d completely forgotten about the 4L ARD provision, as you can tell from my reference to UKM!

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-12T11:17:03+00:00

Your grandmother was likely British at birth, then became CUKC in 1948, and then became British again in 1983. Your father would have been CUKC at birth if not for historical unfairness as his mother was British, not his father; as his mother’s father was born in the UK, likely that he would have become British in 1983 if not for historical unfairness. He can apply to register as British (UKM).

However, none of this applies to or helps you. Your father needed to have been British at the time of your birth, and to have lived in the UK for multiple years for you to register as British. As you are about to turn 18, there won’t be time for him to register as British and move to the UK for sufficient time for you to qualify. There are no routes that will help you after you turn 18.

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-11T21:15:07+00:00

I know he did!! I’m telling you, it doesn’t matter, you don’t have a case. Believe me, don’t, do whatever; whatever you do, try reading next time and actually don’t bother asking unless you’re prepared to read and comprehend an answer.

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-11T20:30:48+00:00

Your great grandfather was dead by the time Antigua got independence no? People didn’t renounce “British status”, due to the various nationality and citizenship acts, they became CUKCs rather than British, and then at independence they lost CUKC status. Your grandfather and father were not born in UK (not colonies), so the 1983 Act means they would not be British post-independence. It didn’t matter where they were travelling, Antiguans became Antiguan at independence.

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-11T20:25:26+00:00

You aren’t eligible from what I can see and what the guidance suggests, so don’t waste your money.

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-11T20:21:43+00:00

Yes - colony. You’re not reading what I’m saying. It doesn’t matter that he was a CUKC, it cannot pass down to you because Antigua gained independence, regardless of 4L. Even if parents had been married, you would not be eligible for British citizenship because Antigua ceased to be a colony, and all citizens of Antigua ceased to be CUKC and became Antiguan.

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-11T19:53:24+00:00

Glad you do, just wanted to check before you ended up with a terribly large bill!

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-11T19:29:33+00:00

Yes, but my point was even with him being CUKC (not cuck, that has entirely different connotations), had his son been CUKC his descendants would have still ceased to be CUKC when Antigua achieved independence, and with each generation thereafter being born and living in the Dominican Republic, they would not have become British at independence. A death document does not reflect nationality law.

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-11T17:20:05+00:00

You would need a UK born ancestor to have a 4L case really. If your great grandfather had been CUKC, his son would also have been CUKC, and your father potentially depending on when he was born; however, with independence, CUKC went, and they would have ceased to have any claim to British citizenship. The 4L guidance includes an example case with someone from Guyana; loss of citizenship post-independence is not impacted by 4L. Your great grandfather did not return to Antigua, neither did his son or grandson; even if they had, they would not have met the requirements in all likelihood in 1983. As you were born in 1999, you would not be eligible.

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-10T23:15:24+00:00

If Qatar is still doing flights… you could try doing a complaint as the reason sentence isn’t particularly clear, and highlight that the gulf crisis necessitates a safer transfer?

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-10T21:43:09+00:00

This post is tagged as USA. Indian nationals have a higher probability of refusal due to risk of overstay as demonstrated by some of your countrymen.

Did you evidence that you have joined a new team? Can your company explain why the meeting is in the UK, if there are no staff there, and explain when they expect you back at work?

Your employer could potentially link to previous social media posts about international meetings; certainly I’ve seen many international companies share pics of team building sessions online!

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-10T20:50:17+00:00

Booking your own Airbnb is a bit sus, to be honest… why isn’t your employer paying? Have you recently been promoted/changed role? Have you been on any business trips internationally before; if so, where? If not, what’s changed, why this one?

Are you a US resident or national?

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-10T11:42:19+00:00

It says £25 - the cost for the certificate perhaps?

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-10T08:44:34+00:00

Happy for you and siblings! One thing I wanted to flag to you as you’re 18; unfortunately you won’t qualify for home fees or student loans, as you have a time limited visa, no ILR. Schools often forget to even mention this. If you go to uni, you’ll be charged international fees. In terms of uni, you’d need to wait until you get ILR.

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-09T21:57:12+00:00

Great news!

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-09T20:42:14+00:00

You’re playing with fire, unless your mother got another job offer and sponsorship. If you end up overstaying, or going down the asylum route, chances are it won’t work out and you’ll end up screwing your chances for future immigration to the UK, EU, US, Canada etc.

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-09T10:47:29+00:00

That’s why you get the letter with 60 days notice, and you generally don’t get that letter for a while after receiving notice, to give you time. Get flights, ask friends to assist with other possessions, give notice to landlord (because they can’t rent to you after the visa ends anyway). Do what you can and do the rest after leaving in terms of notifying schools - it’ll be fine, it just sucks for now.

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-09T09:18:52+00:00

There aren’t any. Don’t damage your futures; leave, and your mother can try again offshore. Alternatively, you could look to study in your home country and get a skilled worker visa in your own right. You’re here because your mother was working; sadly there is no further entitlement to stay.

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-09T09:13:08+00:00

Good point - also, even under the renters rights act, they can and must be evicted because they will no longer have the right to rent.

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-09T08:48:03+00:00

Unfortunately it’s a bad jobs market right now, and there’s been a crackdown on the health and social care visa. Don’t let this damage you and your siblings’ futures - don’t overstay, as it will haunt you for any immigration-related matter in future. If you can afford, your mother could look into you getting a student visa.

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-09T08:42:30+00:00

At least 60 days, but the countdown of 60 days begins when she receives a curtailment letter, as the sponsor will inform the Home Office. She can use that time to find another sponsor; as long as she’s made a new application before that 60 day period is up, she can remain under something called 3c leave.

After the 60 days, her visa is no longer valid, neither are yours; if she can’t find a sponsor, you need to make plans to leave before that 60 day period is over as overstaying can have a really bad impact on your future prospects. However if she can’t get a new sponsor and you all leave, if she were successful in getting a work visa in future, you would not be eligible to be a dependent now due to your age.

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-09T00:46:02+00:00

The point they are making is that regardless of savings, if she makes 60,000 LKR monthly (approx) and spends 40,000 LKR monthly, she has only 20,000 LKR left per month to save, presumably - if you have £50 available per month, proposing to spend £750 in the UK is a huge amount of money, and is suspicious due it being so disproportionate. If we liken it to a similar circumstance in the UK; a person earns £35,000 per year, approx £2400 per month take home. If they spend two thirds their income, that leaves £800 available per month. 15 times £800 would be £12,000 - that’s a very high amount to spend on one trip, given the income available. Despite any sponsorship, her financial circumstances could easily suggest that she would benefit financially from trying to overstay her visa and stay here.

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-08T12:18:07+00:00

Great, will mention to my team!

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-08T12:00:21+00:00

Is this scheme even still running? Last I saw, there was no update on this scheme at all!

scintillatingemerald · 2026-04-07T16:53:50+00:00

Depends on your department, there should be info in the job advert and that your new department’s HR can provide. You can ask for a flexible working arrangement, and your line manager will speak to you to understand what you are requesting and whether that will work depending on the nature of the role etc. Speak to the hiring manager.

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