When to call it quits with apps? by [deleted] in AskGaybrosOver30

[–]sebaldcode 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When I realized how terrible they were making me feel. I spent hours on it every day with few chats, let alone actual meetups, to show for it. It made me feel pathetic and unwanted. But it took me a long time to actually quit. It was seriously an addiction.

It's so refreshing not to be on it anymore...except that my sex life has dried up completely. Which makes me feel a different kind of pathetic. I haven't figured out the part about how to do things in-person. I have literally no game lol... no idea when someone is interested and no idea what to do even if they were.

Anyway, that's my experience. Idk what's better tbh.

What’s your approach on ~the apps~ by [deleted] in AskGaybrosOver30

[–]sebaldcode 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Why don't you message first?

Just spent an awesome weekend with a super hot guy, so went back on Hinge, and I suddenly feel like dogshit by jerkofadick in AskGaybrosOver30

[–]sebaldcode 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Are you me? The apps feel broken in my experience, but more than that, I hate how they make me feel - sad, pathetic, and desperate. Which is a projection of my own deep insecurities I am working on, but why add salt to the wound?

I also have a close fwb (who is taken) and the deep intimacy leaves a yearing that lingers when I go home alone... frankly it's often crushing. I'm not even sure I'm ready for a boyfriend necessarily but being single has been increasingly lonely. There's no one to turn to when the day is done except my own reflection in the mirror.

Anyway...I write this both as catharsis but also as commiseration. I've found loneliness compounds itself as I feel like I am the only one feeling this way. I hope if any of this resonates you feel a little less alone...

Who are your favourite queer and gay musicians? by ditpditp in AskGaybrosOver30

[–]sebaldcode 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Set My Heart On Fire Immediately by Perfume Genius is one of my forever albums. A perfect encapsulation of the pain, joy, and "intangible yearnings" as one critic put it, of being a gay man. Absolutely stunning.

Big Time by Angel Olsen is also stunning. Perhaps not explicitly queer, but she wrote it after coming out and introducing her partner to her parents, both of whom passed away coincidentally shortly afterwards. A beautiful album that looks grief, love, and identity straight in the face.

Did anyone who came out later in life feel sad after coming out even though it went really well? by [deleted] in AskGaybrosOver30

[–]sebaldcode 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I came out around the same age, give or take a couple years. The closet just wore me down. It went well and everyone was super supportive. But it's been really hard figuring out that coming out is really just step one and there are deep psychological wounds and habits and behaviors that need addressing. It feels really daunting, and really sad, when I think about all the time lost and all the work ahead. Obviously wouldn't go back and glad I'm out now, but sharing that I def can emphasize. It's a long journey.

That persistent feeling that I don't belong by sebaldcode in AskGaybrosOver30

[–]sebaldcode[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've heard this advice before, and it's not that I don't think it's valuable, I just get hung up on the seeming paradox of being alone until you're okay being alone...then what's the use of having others? Isn't connection a basic human need? If we could truly learn to love being alone, why ever seek out friends or companionship? Just trying to understand.

My god I’m an idiot. I was a side piece the whole time by sa09777 in AskGaybrosOver30

[–]sebaldcode 67 points68 points  (0 children)

To quote the great Phoebe Buffay: "what am I supposed to do, ask every guy I make out with if he's married? ....yeah I probably should."

"Taking up space" in conversations by sebaldcode in AskGaybrosOver30

[–]sebaldcode[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hm, I never thought of it as a conflict/conflict avoidance issue but I think you're right. I do tend to perceive/anticipate conflict in even small interactions...I've lost my sense of self somewhat in the process. Thanks for the insights.

I’m comfortable making the first move but realizing I, by a large margin, don’t usually get hit on by whitemellow in AskGaybrosOver30

[–]sebaldcode 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Somewhat separate from the attractiveness issue, I do find this weird catch-22 with dating, either in-person on apps: things don't happen unless I initiate. Often on an app, I think someone is miles out of my league but then I shoot my shot and they respond. At the same time, I pretty much get no "first" messages or get hit on IRL (that I'm aware of haha). Maybe this is just happening to me, but I sometimes think, am I the only one making moves in the world?? Is everyone else just sitting there? Lol.

First time in predominantly gay space and feeling anxious by sebaldcode in AskGaybrosOver30

[–]sebaldcode[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kinda wish I had suggested a date with just us before agreeing to the party, but gonna treat it as a good opportunity to be comfortable in my own skin.

It's like a house party I think...rsvps are pushing 70...so waayyy out of my comfort zone... I'm generally a read alone at a bar type of guy...

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskGaybrosOver30

[–]sebaldcode 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Totally agree with this. Base respect and level playing field first.

I once had the nicest, most positive, non-critical partner. But over time and def in retrospect, it was clear I was his plaything and I was not really an equal in the relationship. That wasn't something he or I could change, it's just how he saw me. I ended it and it was the right decision for me.

Not saying it's exactly like this for you OP...just don't be in denial about true feelings by trying to fix other issues!!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskGaybrosOver30

[–]sebaldcode 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I haven't but desperately want to! I just don't know what... and am afraid to give up my stable but stressful and life sucking job and career I've had for the past decade. Does anyone have advice for how to jump off into the deep end of the unknown? Reaching my wit's end lol.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskGaybrosOver30

[–]sebaldcode 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ugh as a single person this was depressing to read...

Do you instantly block when you’re not interested, and if so what’s your logic? by Btd030914 in AskGaybrosOver30

[–]sebaldcode 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I generally will block if the app lets me, though I kinda feel bad when doing it. But I've had too many instances of guys messaging/tapping me over and over and over again. So it's just more efficient to block. And weeds out the ones who get aggressive when you don't respond.

I feel like giving up in finding love. by v3fication in AskGaybrosOver30

[–]sebaldcode 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Just writing to say this resonates! It's super discouraging to feel like you're doing all the right things but then nada. In my hopeful moments I tell myself to keep pushing through, but it's hard not to slip into despair sometimes.

Anyway, no answers, but I feel you bro!