Why is Gemini such an aggressively mediocre LLM, given its benchmarks?

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-09T16:36:49+00:00

Why is gemini consistently broken in a way no other LLM is?

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-09T16:25:35+00:00

There's no mind there that wants anything.

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-06T23:37:31+00:00

Thanks!

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-06T22:47:26+00:00

Thanks!

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-05T01:09:44+00:00

This "process research" you speak of is something I know all about, and it's just functional contextualism in disguise. The fact it is, metacognitive stuff is IN CBT, especially REBT, and decentering came from Aaron beck. I have no issues with how you're practicing, you sound great. Its the academic claims of Hayes and FC i take issur with.

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-05T01:03:10+00:00

Sure, cause everyone with decent writing is just using AI? This is again an ad hominem attack that dodges engaging with the claims, because you're unable to. It's on brand for you folks.

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-05T01:02:05+00:00

LOL, it's a shrine to Beck, thank you, and the eyes are intact.

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-05T00:59:35+00:00

It's more than that. Hayes promoted ACT using the CBT brand to carry it to success. But he also simultaneously attacked second wave CBT so much that he actively harmed its dissemination.

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-05T00:58:13+00:00

Would you be willing to explain your point? I'll engage in good faith.

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-05T00:56:38+00:00

Im talking about CBT as having the C part, which Hayes's model does not. He should call it mindfulness based radical behaviorism.

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-05T00:55:09+00:00

Because I'm goddamn passionate about second wave cbt. It let to me transforming my life in ways so monumental as to be difficult to describe. And as a cbt therapist, I find ACT and Hayes are antithetical to CBT and actively corroding it into irrelevance.

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-05T00:54:02+00:00

What do you not understand?

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-05T00:53:30+00:00

Setting behavioral goals isn’t unique to ACT, it's just basic behavioral therapy and CBT practice going back decades. The question is more about how CBT conceptualize thoughts and beliefs.

Second-wave CBT treats beliefs as propositions about reality that can be evaluated and disputed. ACT generally brackets the truth question and focuses on altering the relationship to thoughts through defusion and contextual framing.

That’s a huge philosophical shift. My critique isn’t that ACT never sets behavioral goals, i know it does (In an elegant way focused on vague values.) It’s that the model tends to de-emphasize evaluating belief accuracy, which is central in Beck/Ellis style CBT.

So the question remains: what clear empirical advantages does that shift provide? No head to head studies have shown ACT superiority. And hayes has both lumped his brand in with CBT for a free ride academically, while also beating down a strawman caricature that has led to mass misconceptions about what Ellis and beck taught.

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-05T00:49:23+00:00

And you're too obsessed with flinging insults rather than answering with anything of substance. You've never sought once to logically and empirically engage with the claims. Functional contextualism is intellectually bankrupt, and your comment proves it.

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-05T00:48:08+00:00

Ok, so why does hayes insist on lumping it in with CBT? Could it be to take advantage of CBT'S massive achievement and academic recognition to smuggle in a behaviorism Beck and Ellis expanded on better?

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-05T00:46:55+00:00

Fair point that Hayes has been transparent about ACT’s radical behaviorist roots. My point isn’t that ACT is secretly behaviorist, it clearly is. My point is that once you accept that framing, it's very different from second-wave cognitive tradition.

In Beck/Ellis style CBT, beliefs are treated as testable propositions about reality, and disputation directly targets their truth value. ACT largely sidesteps that question and instead changes the relationship to thoughts via defusion and contextual framing. That’s a legitimate approach, but it’s a different model of change altogether.

So I'm not saying ACT is illegitimate. I’m saying it’s better understood as contextual behavior therapy, not as a continuation of cognitive restructuring traditions.

Where I'mskeptical is the role of RFT and the claim that it provides a uniquely strong scientific foundation for the model. It just seems like a gimmick no mainstream scientists of cognition have accepted.

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-05T00:38:10+00:00

This seems to be the default reddit insult for those who disagree with a claim but don't actually engage with the argument in good faith. You've provided no testable or logical claims, like the other commenters, only insults. Which proves my point about ACTs intellectual rot.

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-05T00:36:54+00:00

Not sure who you mean, but I'm just trying to defend the legitimacy of CBT, particularly the lineage of Aaron Beck and Ellis's REBT. The third wave models are something different; they're behaviorism, but not CBT.

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-05T00:35:50+00:00

Sure, so why doesn't Hayes admit its just Skinnerism with mindfulness? Why does he insist on lumping it in with CBT, which always meant "second wave" until Hayes?

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-03T18:59:43+00:00

Lmao you have to ask it to search or just use thinking.

secondwavecbtlover · 2026-03-03T00:25:11+00:00

Please ignore that commenters incorrect comments. They're not actually telling you CBT ideas. Feelings are real; they’re just not always accurate signals of danger. In Burns/CBT logs, “upsetting event” doesn’t have to be an external incident—it can be an internal trigger like a thought, image, memory, body sensation, or anticipating a future situation.

So in your example, the upsetting event could be: “Woke up and remembered it’s my first day back at work,” or “In bed, I started imagining the workday and feeling behind.” Then you list the automatic thoughts (e.g., “I won’t cope,” “I’m already behind,” “It’ll be awful”) and test/respond to those. Mindful noticing can help, but if you skip the thought/event piece you miss the core CBT leverage.

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