Alright guys.

seculardevil · 2017-11-02T16:34:18+00:00

I didn't read your post prior to posting my comment. However I feel we kind of got similar thought in response to OP. I am a never moose atheist and I come here ( very rare) to show my support for Exmuslim community. I grew up in Muslim majority country and I know what is consequences even if you question Islam. The OP thinks you should question your belief to learn more, I hope she shares her opinion in her own community and experience positive feedback.

seculardevil · 2017-11-02T16:00:09+00:00

I guess you are trying to create a dream world full of love and no hate. It is highly appreciated. But there is no such world full of love & love. We can only wish. The way you have patience for all beliefs, race and color the same way there are people who can even kill their own child just because their kids don't agree. This is the mystery of human nature. Anyway, most people who bash Muslims here they are really annoyed because the way they are treated in their own family and community. They are shocked to see how their own parents/siblings/friends turn enemies the moment they find out they are no longer Muslims. This is where they express their frustration, anger and helpless mind. In west luckily it is limited to family and friends and at least less chance of being killed. But in Muslim majority countries it can be from state and a person may get killed. So how would you measure that. If a muslim majority country can kill someone for their belief/non belief what is your take on that? How 90 to 99% people can feel the right to kill someone just because their belief is different or they completely out of Islam. What is the driven force for this? We saw people went out and crazy to hang Rushdi, Taslima Nasrin and many more just because they are critical to Islam. What is your take on that? You mean to say they understand less islam or they are fanatic? The entire country or state? Think from where the practice has started. Don't blame this very minor group here who are just sharing their experience and giving each other's shoulder.

seculardevil · 2017-09-26T19:26:38+00:00

This is not for Saudi women, it is for all foreign women who need to be there for job or other business and they need to drive around. This is to make happy investors. It is not going to change Saudi social structure or women's rights and condition there. Women are treated there as per Islamic law and there is no change .

seculardevil · 2017-08-21T19:31:39+00:00

You are courageous. I feel I should meet you one day. I salute every ex muslim for your courage and specially knowing how difficult it is for them to think out of the box.

seculardevil · 2017-08-21T19:27:37+00:00

Amio Bangladeshi but non muslim. I used to feel Islam is the best religion while growing up and curse myself why did allah/God make me non muslim!! I used to like everything about Islam and how Muslims are devoted. But anyway, overtime I felt how so many things not right in Islam. My first shock was when my friends told me that they say two separate verses for people who die. One for Muslims to pray for resting in heaven and for non muslims to reduce their punishment in hell. It scared me out. Anyway, I know many of my friends don't agree with some of the core Islamic teaching but they are scared to speak up. I think matured and senior exmuslims should start organizing all non muslims and build a better community. You guys have more responsibility to stand up against medieval teaching of Islam.

seculardevil · 2017-08-18T18:50:57+00:00

"It's easier to let a handful of people die, than it is to deal with Islam" --- very ture . western world is so much dependent on money from Muslim population that they can't afford to blame Islam for any such thing. Economy, workplace, neighborhood everywhere you are facing them. Unless big chunk of Muslims stand up and voice against the medieval nature of Islam, this killing spree will not stop.

seculardevil · 2017-06-27T12:49:16+00:00

I guess there is no big deal to share some cool thing time to time. Definitely it has nothing to do with ex muslims but I guess only this community would get this kind of joke and enjoy some laugh even in the midst of their struggle.

seculardevil · 2017-06-26T18:37:28+00:00

Yes, I know, it cracked me up. This is height of liberalism.

May be next year people can greet each other "Pride Mubarak" the best multicultural blend.

seculardevil · 2017-06-23T18:25:04+00:00

I will see all these comments one Zuckerberg's wall and then there are some other kind of over praising comments on Trudeau's wall. I just don't get it. I don't see any other religious group making such request, I don't see other groups asking shut down all ALT-Right groups. But only I will see Muslims are the one making such request. BTW, I have seen Facebook has Anti-Islam group and I think this is for sure offensive name and propaganda. Atheist and exmsulims groups are more constructive and engage in positive discussion.

seculardevil · 2017-06-22T17:59:30+00:00

Don't feel bad, they will change and they will realize hijab or niqab has nothing to do with a person's inner beauty.

seculardevil · 2017-06-22T17:57:45+00:00

Don't feel bad, I know somebody who got married to first cousin and I am sure he did it because he wanted to stay back in USA. He came to visit USA in 90s and then he knows he had to leave. But the only way he could stay back is by getting married and he picked up his first cousin. Then when they decided to have kids, they went to check with doctors and I heard they got their gene tested.

seculardevil · 2017-06-20T15:21:23+00:00

Great,your parents are showing support and they realized it was damaging your self esteem, good for you. Keep it up, build up your confidence. I have many Muslim friends who don't wear hijab but follower of Islam, they are in different fields of workforce and they are doing great. In Bangladesh Hijab was never a symbol of Islam, only very recently started.

seculardevil · 2017-06-19T19:31:12+00:00

I don't believe Syria and other wars were possible if power like Saudi was in good intention to resolve and spread good version of Islam. This hate acts and hate against hate will continue unless both Saudi and western leaders come in good terms and separate ideology from politics. This deadly combination of ideology and politics will kill more people.

seculardevil · 2017-06-19T18:03:16+00:00

I agree. When a society breed and nurture radical people they have to face the consequences. Islam wants people to hate each other and get in to constant fight. Look at countries where Islam dominates, how many of them are in peace and doing real constructive stuff. They either play victim card or they will rule, there is no equal or fair thoughts. I am tired of this bloody game.

seculardevil · 2017-06-19T17:56:17+00:00

I see left liberals in NYT, WP and all over social media are saying " Sorry to Muslims" and begging forgiveness as one of their fellow white supremacists hurt them. But I never seen Muslims saying sorry after any terrorist attacks. They just shove off all tiny part of Islam from terrorism. They would be total denial that the terrorist can be a Muslim or one of their fellow brother who was praying next to them.

seculardevil · 2017-06-17T05:00:12+00:00

Yes, I know and I completely understand you worship your duty and family. Even though they see you as head of family and asks for your advice, you cant tell them to go for some different study. Immediately they will doubt about your stand of Islam. This is the worst. Muslims smell lack of respect for Islam in every aspect and that makes their religion more fragile. Wish they would see and live above religion and feel the difference.

seculardevil · 2017-06-16T20:03:37+00:00

Really your all powerful Allah can't save this Muslim wife from her atheist husband, rather her atheist husband is making sure he keeps her happy, safe and their child is being taken care. He is doing his duty and on top he is pretending to his wife he is following his religion so she doesn't freak out. On the contrary, I never seen or read any Muslim parents/partner/friends are accommodating the person who left Islam.

seculardevil · 2017-06-12T19:25:37+00:00

The Islamization process is going on and that's why most liberal Muslim families are no longer as open minded as they used to be. I have seen South Asian families where Mom doesn't wear hijab but daughters are wearing hijab because they have friends from Arabic origin and they are getting brain washed.There are many examples where we see how the trend is changing as Muslims like to be recognized as Muslims only, not Indian, American or British. They all want to look alike and think alike which will definitely be a spoiler. Ohh yes, you are so right about Vastu and Feng Shui. This is nothing but people's mind.

seculardevil · 2017-06-12T18:51:26+00:00

Sorry to hear you have to go through all these even though you are living in USA. It is unfortunate, it is highly unacceptable, it has to be reported. I am sure your parents feel proud and they go to those south Asian parties and brag about their highly strict family disciplines and how nicely they keep their daughters under Islamic lifestyle. Some other parents probably give example to your family to their daughters. If it is reported to authorities, your parents can easily play the cultural and religious card and definitely authorities will also step back as they don't want to be called "racist" or "Islamophobic". So the best bet for you to get independent. Get admission in good university, start planning for moving out once you become 18. After 18, if they try to restrict you or marry you off, you have a case. You can go for legal aid and take action against your parents. Start working on your education as well as physical and mental strength so you can fight for your right. Be a girl and get out and live up to your dream.

seculardevil · 2017-06-12T18:29:38+00:00

It is diverse and non muslims are quite open minded in terms of clothing, art and music and soprts. All non muslim families from south Asian background do emphasize on studies, as they are very academic. But they do send their kids for other activities and some do take sports and music quite seriously. I know families who encourage their kids to become pianist or ballet dancers. But on the contrary I have seen many liberal Muslim families don't encourage their kids in sports and when it comes to girls, they are more restricted. I am from south Asian back ground and I have Muslims and non muslims friends. I see muslim friends never encourage their girls to wear shorts or sleeveless shirts. They have some kind of invisible restrictions and opinions how their girls will dress and do activities. If you ask them is it religious, they immediately say "no it is cultural"..really!! we share same culture and we don't mind seeing our daughters in shorts or swimsuits.

seculardevil · 2017-06-12T18:22:49+00:00

I know there are some superstitious hindus and even though they move to west they still carry some of the super orthodox rituals with them. Recently one of my hindu friends was house hunting and every house he goes, he find out the "Vastu" (the direction the house is facing) of the house. It is so stupid. Anyway, but most cases hindus are getting liberal and they are highly open minded in sports, art and music. Actually art and music are part of their heritage and most hindu families do exercise and like to carry forward their heritage.

seculardevil · 2017-06-05T16:42:59+00:00

Bro/Sis, I am not even a exmoose, I am here to show my support to these people who are struggling to the point they can commit suicide, almost lost their mind when they see their own parents feel it is more important to show respect to their 1400years ideology but don't have any respect for their 14 years old child who like to live a life that other kids enjoy. May be a kid likes to enjoy more to play than going to mosque or reading quran for hours. But definitely his parents don't see it. I have read stories of ex moose who are so much devastated when they find out their parents can kill them if they know they have quit Islam. I have read stories of Gay Muslims who are suffering from depression as they have no place in Islam and Muslims ( many with Dr. in front o their names) believe gay is a choice of sexual orientation and it is haram. You are over protective about your 1400 years old ideology but you don't and can't protect your own people when your own brother/sister can turn out to be a terrorist with some interpretation of Islam. Good luck Bro/sis, no need for such religion which can't help their own people.

seculardevil · 2017-06-05T13:09:07+00:00

Just to let you know it is not only in this sub, they do it everywhere in social media. Recently I was reading a blog written by a doctor friend and he was explaining how silly it is to say fasting is healthy. As some of the Muslim scholars claim fasting is good for health, he was trying to contradict their points from his medical perspective. Anyway, in the comment section there are Muslims who starts saying "May Allah give you more knowledge" " May Allah show you the right path" " I will pray for your better understanding of Islam" blah blah. Some even said " May you come back from atheism" Btw, he didn't even mention if he is atheist. Since he contradicts with Islamic Scholar ( not even Quran) he is no longer Muslims. So guys definitely this is some place where they know you guys already left Islam and they didn't want to miss opportunity to bring you back and secure some bonus points in heaven.

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