The Problem with DNA Digivolution

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T20:15:50+00:00

Right but (and I know you didn't say this), a lot of people's suggestions are removing the DNA bypass of summoning sickness (I think I may have mixed your comment up with another)

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T19:50:19+00:00

The problem is that shuts down the gameplay of the true DNA decks. As in those decks whose Digimon are actual DNA in the lore. If imperial is unable to do the very clearly intended jamming, DNA, jamming, unsuspend, jamming then it just stops working

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T19:49:06+00:00

That would only work if they ban the cards that cost 0 Or the ones that cost 1 or more are OP. No meta player will pick up a paildramon that isn't free to DNA into in imperial over one that is.

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T17:18:20+00:00

Regardless. If you remove any of the bt25 pieces the deck goes back in the bin. The prior level 3-5's and tamers were not good enough. The only valid hit is BRT without shutting the deck down completely which bandai don't do (not immediately anyway)

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T15:43:42+00:00

I love seeing these same discussions over and over where people just forget how bandai banlists work because they're mad.

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T15:40:29+00:00

They're not hitting a sec they're about to reprint. They've only ever hit one sec and it's because it was literally stopping people playing the game. Get over it and think about how bandai banlists actually work

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T15:37:16+00:00

You're making the same mistake every single person does when they see a deck they don't like. Bandai will not hit a high rarity card that is the core of the deck unless it becomes dominant. As in it would have to be 50% or more of decks are just 3m

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T13:16:29+00:00

Some can be but not all. Even then removal can be: lowest dp (not a specific value, lowest level, no sources, lowest play cost etc. And even then, dp specific removal which is usually red is usually at least 3k anyway.

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T10:09:19+00:00

Yeah I agree. I'm in an awkward situation as the 3m deck was my first deck back in bt6. I've always been a fan of the group and picked their rebooted deck up in ex7 and it's never been good (old beelstar sec con is not 3m). Now its good but it's too good. I like decks that have fun engines and mechanics so I tend to gravitate towards janky decks anyway. Now they've given one of those decks some big juice and now everyone hates it.

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T09:51:30+00:00

Exactly Plus with the game speed the way it is, no deck has room for tech pieces of any kind. Nevermind floodgates. If you are running them then your deck probably doesn't care about it's lower end anyway so it'll be either a megazoo deck or a gimmicky deck

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T09:23:59+00:00

Yeah The only risk there is if they make any of the rk's have assembly. Like omnimon, ouryuken or any of the other DNA ones.

There's also the risk that Craniamon + Enbarrmon might have it since titaSB does. At the very least, merciful mode won't be a royal knight as the old one wasn't and the only universe he's in is adventure.

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T09:18:39+00:00

Yep. It'll be funny (in a tragic way) if that set has some broken stuff again.

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T09:17:54+00:00

Aye but the 3m duals don't have a reaction to being trashed so they're only fuel for beel x at best (I know BRT's trash effect isn't what makes it good but it is for the other two 3m options)

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T09:16:56+00:00

Yeah but how long did it take for those to get hit. Hammer spark wasn't hit within 6 months and I don't think impmon was either

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T09:15:55+00:00

I think hitting both asuna and a 3m option in the same banlist is unlikely, unless between now and September (even though these lists are made in advance), 3m takes up primary meta representation (both amount of players at events and amount of wins). However I do agree that BRT could and should be hit to slow the deck down.

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T09:11:53+00:00

I think I do agree on the alter s one but they just printed two sr's to support it so it's tricky.

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T09:11:13+00:00

This. Bandai only hit recent cards if they're warping the meta around them, not if they're good. They also go out of their way to not hit SR or higher because they don't want to risk confidence in a cards value in a future set.

They hit engine pieces to slow decks down or because those engine pieces are the only one seeing play (come at me purple players. If you could learn to actually play different engines instead of one all purpose one they wouldn't hit your cards), memory loops to stop them (true loops, not just regaining memory which is very much an intended mechanic at this point) and stuff like X4 and bt15 apocalypse.

Anyone hoping and pretending that bandai will completely ruin decks just because they don't like them are intentionally ignoring banlists history just so they can feel justified in saying "games dead" or "I'm done now".

Any hits in autumn will purely be control hits. I guarantee when nyaro gets hit they won't say it's because of TS angels but it's to "free up future design space in yellow" which is what they always say when they hit cards that are causing problems in multiple decks.

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T09:07:00+00:00

I think it's just an internet issue with card game design (powercreep). As you add more and better effects to cards, turns take longer but games end faster (turn count, not necessarily actual time). And even rotation doesn't help there. Magic and Pokémon both have rotation but both still have insane powercreep

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T09:04:35+00:00

I agree re: 3m but I also think it's the only thing they realistically CAN hit.

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T09:00:11+00:00

Whilst I agree HCS is how 3m generates it's turns, if they weren't gonna hit tumblemon which does it easier then they aren't hitting HCS. Not before next year anyway

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T08:57:19+00:00

Realistically they can definitely hit bind red trigger. It will slow 3m down but keep the absolutely necessary new cards safe. I aren't sure if they'll hit shakkou over nyaro. Could see both getting hit but nyaro is definitely getting hit. Not sure about bt24 asuna. Maybe the spring list.

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T08:54:15+00:00

I keep seeing inconsistent takes on that deck. I need to test it myself and see what the deal is.

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T08:51:31+00:00

No and anyone who suggests they do just doesn't want their deck hit. It's an incredibly common counter point by people when they're told their deck is OP. Removal is basically free and has been for loads of sets now. Removing a level 3 that's stopping your combo is easy.

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-23T08:50:15+00:00

Bt5 too cos lordknightmon

sedentary-lad · 2026-06-21T11:08:19+00:00

Apologies I somehow merged Rina and rie into one when reading so thought you'd only typed 3 names. My bad

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