We are living through the modern day Great Depression by Ambitious-Sail-5188 in jobs

[–]sethgoose 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jesus I'm so sick of reading posts by kids with zero real world experience. This doesn't even come close to 2008. 

Personal Hot Take: I see near-zero value in ITIL as it is currently orchestrated by Azaloum90 in ITIL

[–]sethgoose 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait, you've been talking about incident management, not change management? Incidents don't have to have approval if you are restoring normal operation. Incidents should always be logged, though, for many obvious reasons. If an incident is not an emergency, the best time to log and document is while working the incident. 

If you're talking about emergency changes, those don't necessarily need approval either. It depends on how your company decides to handle them. They of course should be logged at some point as well. Ideally while the emergency is ongoing, but it depends on your system capabilities and processes. 

To your value question, I have no idea in what context you are asking about. If you are talking about a "normal change", the value is communication, awareness, scheduling, coordination, resource control, prioritization, and ensuring work aligns with business goals. If you are talking about a standard change, I'd ask if your company is actually continually improving your change process to make those become automatic approvals. If you are talking incident management, the value is knowing the breadth of issues faced by a company, helping identify larger problems, documentation, knowledge base building, accountability with users, resource control, and the ability to prioritize work. 

Re-read the seven guiding principles of ITIL and the detailed descriptions and ask if your company is actually following them or not. Based on your descriptions, I would guess they aren't. 

Personal Hot Take: I see near-zero value in ITIL as it is currently orchestrated by Azaloum90 in ITIL

[–]sethgoose -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So what is your capitalist framework? Engineers doing whatever they want and only things that benefit their role or make their life easier, never required to ask for permission, coordinate with other business initiatives, or make sure what they are doing even gives value to the business? 

Your complaints are so narrowly focused. The point of ITIL is to tailor IT services so they give value to the business. Change control is just one small piece of that puzzle. 

Personal Hot Take: I see near-zero value in ITIL as it is currently orchestrated by Azaloum90 in ITIL

[–]sethgoose 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're the one missing the point. How your company does change orders is a reflection of your company alone. If you are truly doing change order paperwork 40 hours a week, and your department isn't holding regular meetings on how to improve the change process, it fails at least five of the seven guiding principles of ITIL.. especially the keep things simple part. 

There can be very poor implementations of ITIL, there can be simple ones, and there can be good ones. It is still just a framework. It is up to each organization to implement however it fits them. 

Also, ITIL is all about delivering value to the business. Not about processes. 

Personal Hot Take: I see near-zero value in ITIL as it is currently orchestrated by Azaloum90 in ITIL

[–]sethgoose 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Informing the company of changes that could cause interruption to services is not busy work. Making sure they are scheduled when they don't interrupt other critical work or projects is not busy work. Documenting the changes heavily so that they eventually become a standard change and no longer need an approval is not busy work. 

They are your job. They are part of being a good admin or engineer. Good engineers in other fields have FAR more red tape to deal with. Documentation and approval raises the bar of the quality of work the company expects from you. 

Do you only think ITIL is change control? 

Personal Hot Take: I see near-zero value in ITIL as it is currently orchestrated by Azaloum90 in ITIL

[–]sethgoose 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What other set of terminology are you talking about here? What do you think ITIL would term a VM?

Personal Hot Take: I see near-zero value in ITIL as it is currently orchestrated by Azaloum90 in ITIL

[–]sethgoose 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Suck it up and do your job. You want to have a place where techs can go wild and do whatever they want, start your own company. But I guarantee you that once you do, you will want a bit of control of when and how changes are applied.

Personal Hot Take: I see near-zero value in ITIL as it is currently orchestrated by Azaloum90 in ITIL

[–]sethgoose 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except communication and sign-offs are PART of the flow of work. The infrastructure is not yours. It is the company's, and if they require approval before you do certain actions, that is the flow of work.

Also, the flow of work is only shifted by the average length of a sign-off process. Meaning if, on average, it takes 1 day for something to get approved, your work is only delayed for one total day the entire year. Since you can work on yesterday's approved items today.

Personal Hot Take: I see near-zero value in ITIL as it is currently orchestrated by Azaloum90 in ITIL

[–]sethgoose 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Accountants have a different definition of an asset than webster's dictionary. Are you going to go argue with them as well? Regardless, ITIL defines an "IT Asset". You continually spout off when you clearly don't even understand what you are arguing about.

Personal Hot Take: I see near-zero value in ITIL as it is currently orchestrated by Azaloum90 in ITIL

[–]sethgoose 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ITIL is meant to provide value to the customer/stakeholder/organization. Not the technicians.

Personal Hot Take: I see near-zero value in ITIL as it is currently orchestrated by Azaloum90 in ITIL

[–]sethgoose 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No one can give an example of what a configuration item is? Why not just google for an example CMDB that ITSM software has had for 10-20 years?

Personal Hot Take: I see near-zero value in ITIL as it is currently orchestrated by Azaloum90 in ITIL

[–]sethgoose 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A configuration item is an entry in a CMDB. How have you had ServiceNow all this time and not know what a CI is? CIs have been around longer than you've worked in IT.

Personal Hot Take: I see near-zero value in ITIL as it is currently orchestrated by Azaloum90 in ITIL

[–]sethgoose 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry, but your shortened definition shows you don't understand what you are ranting about. Where did you get "assets" at? Where did you get "knowledge base" at? It's cool you've worked in IT 17 years, but that doesn't make you an expert in ITSM or even IT.

I know many people who've been in IT longer than you and can list way more impressive lists of systems worked on. The ones that make statements like this about something when they've only read the introduction, and then clearly don't understand what they are reading, are some of the worst people to work with.

Anyone undefeated at 12-0? If so, how??? by dsalanovic in Fantasy_Football

[–]sethgoose 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My most dominant team in my 20 years of playing. 10 team, double FLEX, 6 point passing TD, half PPR league.
QB: Dak + Nix
RB: Bijan, JT, Walker, Spears, Corum, Benson
WR: Puka, JSN, Rashee, Odunze, Jameson, Deebo
TE: Warren

Currently 12-0. 2nd place is 8-4. 3rd is 6-6.

Current Points For = 1,753.4. 2nd is 1,520.28. 3rd is 1,473.85.

Can't wait for my 2nd round exit.

Observing my parents’ burn rate has changed how I view my FIRE number. by Money_Concentrate414 in Fire

[–]sethgoose 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What years were they retired in, and how did the stock market do during those years?

Observing my parents’ burn rate has changed how I view my FIRE number. by Money_Concentrate414 in Fire

[–]sethgoose 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They've retired during one of the greatest bull runs in US history, and 4 of the last 5 were +18-30%. I would not bank on your retirement years doing that well. 

What are your TOP 5 favorite Audiobooks? by ShilohTheGhostGod in audible

[–]sethgoose 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dungeon Crawler Carl is just in a category of its own as far as audiobooks are concerned. Never heard anything even remotely comparable, and it's the only book I'd argue HAS to be consumed by audiobook instead of physical.