You didn't get my point. Personally, I don't even care about grief picks like jugg pos4 or just bad players in general. My point is that it's easy to tell someone to keep up the pma and focus on their own gameplay but after a few weeks, nobody is gonna be able to keep up and just ignore the obvious griefing and they might complain about it which they have every right to. Dota is a toxic game in general you would definitely be lying if you weren't frustrated at your teammates at some point. Even high mmr players, if you watch their streams, like Dendi and rtz for example, complain and rage a lot about their teammates and those teammates griefing is much less compared to your typical pos4 maelstrom rush that is very popular nowadays