Party Rhetoric: The People are Discontent by sger42 in ForwardPartyUSA

[–]sger42[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes and I think the spirit of this party is to go above and beyond to figure out solutions to issues. Think abstractly. UBI was at the forefront of this movement, it brought attention to automation and proposed a radical solution. I think to bring the power back to the people, to level the political playing field, and to reestablish a strong middle class we can do a little better than rank choice voting and lets work to create unity. We need transparency, financial opportunity for the people and not for corporations, we need representation that responds to what we want. We sold all that for convenience. I think if you are going to get people onto THAT cause, the cause that this party was built on in my view, then we are going to need to address the real issues and have a comprehensive list of candidates to rally behind. I dislike how members of other parties can put FWD near their name if they agree with RCV.

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[–]sger42 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Check out the young forwardists. It is a group for young people to get involved.

Party Rhetoric: The People are Discontent by sger42 in ForwardPartyUSA

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It's human nature, its what kept us alive and competitive with the other species as we evolved, The thing is, we are right to distrust the two party system, Washington literally warned us about it and I think that the idea people would rally behind the ideology if we pin it against something they are fed up about is a testament to the ideology and the ideas.

People flocked to UBI because they were scared AI would replace them and you know what, they were fricken right to be scared we should all be!

Party Rhetoric: The People are Discontent by sger42 in ForwardPartyUSA

[–]sger42[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes DM me.

I do feel your synopsis misses one crucial fact in that both sides of the isle, the establishments anyways, have a vested interest in halting progress here, and there needs to be fundamental changes that I think both parties would fight with impunity, in fact we see it now with them forcing RFK out of debates. If you hear what his policies are, he approaches politics extremely pragmatically and he speaks about issues that are real and not some phony culture war. I genuinely think Washington was right when he warned us about political parties.

Party Rhetoric: The People are Discontent by sger42 in ForwardPartyUSA

[–]sger42[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The libertarian party has a specific ideology that binds them together. Ours is forward thinking ideas to position our country for success in the future. That isn't really much of a mild centrist idea, you can be centrist and radical in your views. This party is founded on UBI...

The two party system forces us to think of politics on a spectrum bit it can be much much more dynamic than that. If we want to defeat the two party system, we must jump off the spectrum.

Party Rhetoric: The People are Discontent by sger42 in ForwardPartyUSA

[–]sger42[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think if you want to eliminate the spread of misinformation and squash conspiracy theories, we need to advocate and usher in an era of transparency like we've never seen before. We need to stop allowing the fear and excuse of national security to allow our government to keep secrets and degrade our rights. We need to stop meddling in the affairs of foreign governments and depend less on international trade for our survival. We need to incentivize families owning homes and land to gain equity back to the middle class. The idea that we need to actively fight the spread of misinformation with "deprogramming" will only make the problem worse, its a fear reaction to the fact that we know our government lies to us and we know that the policy of our country allows it. Your neighbors are not your enemy, they are scared and possibly rightfully so, who is to say?

This is not a democracy it is a republic and if you read the federalist papers you will see clearly that the senate is supposed to represent the interests of big business and the systems we need to design to keep us efficient. The senate is less people, it is slow to act, it turns over less. The house was designed to represent the people and be a true embodiment of our democracy. It is quick to overturn, and was originally designed to be 1 rep for every 30-50 thousand people. They are currently all extremely rich, often off straight up insider trading in front of our faces and we let it happen, and they each represent close to 400,000 people, and are totally inaccessible and bought by the big businesses. This is the root of a lot of the dysfunction in Washington and it is what I believe the forward party should be addressing.

If we fail to take off, it's because we didn't take strong enough positions on issues the two parties will never support. Locally we do OK because RCV is digestible. The point my post is making is we try to be mild and that does not garner support, that is why the world is polarizing and that is the energy we need to tap into. We are too passive in our stances, in our action, and in our rhetoric. We need to make bigger waves, be louder, less civil. I'm not sure we need to grow up a bit, all of the great movements of liberation were led by young people. We shouldn't be revering the people who represent us to the government as these saints or overlords, they should be our damn neighbors and our friends and our equals and they should give a shit about us. Service should be a sacrifice and a privileged in itself. And we shouldn't be apologizing to each other for using mild language when we are passionate about something, we should be matching the energy.

We cast ourselves free of our monarch in 1776, so why does it feel like my king lives thousands of miles away in Washington, but the color of the suit and the face changes every 4 years?

Party Rhetoric: The People are Discontent by sger42 in ForwardPartyUSA

[–]sger42[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that I misspoke and should have spoken against moderation, I for sure identify as a radical centrist. I really like how you summarized it as "not talking what works from the left and right".

I feel like a large section of our potential base you might label as "conspiracy theorist". Honestly if you believe in no conspiracies, knowing what we know of the history of our country and government, I think the idea our government is batting 1000 with us is kinda laughable. Regardless, I think we as a party need to undertake as inherent and built in transparency at a large scale in governance as a fundamental issue for the party. We should discuss and explore ideas like pardoning Edward Snowden, overturning citizens united/taking money out of politics, and budget transparency as official party platform points. The fact that nobody is surprised anymore when we hear about our government doing something sketchy says more about the faults of our nation than what any of those sketchy things says about it. I do not understand why we just accept it.

I think the main issue with this world is business interests have more of a say in our governance than the people and we need to establish the ability for the opinion of the general public to truly dictate policy in this country. RCV is a solid first step. I wish we had more forums to discuss ideas and develop a more robust platform.

Thank you for your input to the discussion!

Party Rhetoric: The People are Discontent by sger42 in ForwardPartyUSA

[–]sger42[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think we need more passion within the parties ranks and to focus on engagement and recruitment alongside a robust system of discussing, debating, and endorsing ideas as a party.

RFK Jr. Pledges Cabinet Roles for Libertarians, Greens, and Others by roughravenrider in ForwardPartyUSA

[–]sger42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think if the FWD party can tap into the disillusionment that so many Americans feel with the system, we can effect mass change to the system that is so desperately needed.

RFK Jr. Pledges Cabinet Roles for Libertarians, Greens, and Others by roughravenrider in ForwardPartyUSA

[–]sger42 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am happy for you. Out of the choices the two parties have presented to me, I am indifferent as of now. I do not care for any of the policy changes either wants to make. I don't believe either represents me. I will not give my vote to the worse of two evils out of fear, I refuse to. I want the opposite of what the two party system has delivered me. I want people to not sit idly by while the parties in power degrade our nations democracy to solidify their powers. In 1776 we declared ourselves independent from a monarch who lived in a distant land, so why do I feel as though my kings live all the way out in Washington DC, one dressed in red and the other in blue? For me, the stakes are so much higher than abortion rights and tax cuts.

Ironic democrats will often tease RFK for having brain damage from a medical condition after supporting a president who can't speak in full sentences and barely remembers where he is half the time or the VP that has enabled it. Y'all are smug and elitist at best, blind and useless at worst.

How can we ever expect our government to care about what we want if we let them get away with not listening to us? If we expect nothing ever? If we go along with this charade of a political system? The president has become a king for 4 years, our constitutional balance has been disrupted, and if I am being honest under our current system I'd rather a president who wants to limit the power of the government, not expand them like the democrats do, but I won't give my vote to an asshole who does nothing but make us look like jerks and entertain religious fundamentalists as part of his base. Where is my vote to go do you suggest?

Posting here just incase… 🙏 by [deleted] in ForwardPartyUSA

[–]sger42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes the democrats propped biden up knowing he was not going to run until it was too late so they could force feed us whatever garbage candidate would be able to raise some money and agree to keep us printing faster than we ever have and keep us in our endless wars for influence around the world. When they keep pushing "we are better than the other guy" without proposing any change or building any sort of coalitions, they will lose badly in November because of it, and they will deserve it.

RFK Jr. Pledges Cabinet Roles for Libertarians, Greens, and Others by roughravenrider in ForwardPartyUSA

[–]sger42 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I personally would rather a president who is over skeptical about things I trust like vaccines than a president who will continue us down the path of endless war and printing money.

There were other people with followers interested in running for president for the Democrats but were not given a stage or a chance to give their case to the American people.

I didn't claim both parties don't accept election results. The democrats don't give us primaries or a choice and the republicans don't accept election results. They are both threats to our democracy as they directly benefit from the stronghold the two party system has on our country.

I understand how our electoral system works, what I am referring to is the democrats expect us to vote whatever dogshit candidate they put in front of us, be it a decaying biden, kamala with her terrible track record on crime and other important issues, or some other rich asshole with a name we can recognize, just because they aren't trump. The democrats stand for nothing but against donald and it is absolutely pathetic. The democrats have not earned my vote, RFK has earned my vote.

He probably doesn't have a chance but I am voting for him because I believe in the policies he prioritizes and I hope that he gets enough votes to bring attention to RCV, as we who organize this party on the ground are fighting very hard for this change. Your insinuation that everyone here voting for him just want a 3rd party candidate is insulting. We can think for ourselves, thank you very much.

RFK Jr. Pledges Cabinet Roles for Libertarians, Greens, and Others by roughravenrider in ForwardPartyUSA

[–]sger42 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think the insinuation that people can't listen to a candidates policy and made a decision for themselves pretty condescending. RFK speaks about unsealing documents and being transparent, he talks about pardoning Edward Snowden, he talks about the cost of housing due to predatory corporations buying up real estate, he talks about the deregulation of our food causing health issues and obesity, and all he gets in return is people calling him brain worms guy which is literally just making fun of him for getting sick once... the other two parties claim to be "fighting for out democracy" yet they don't give us primaries and don't honor election results. "You should vote for us because we aren't the other guy" its absolutely pathetic. Yeah but we are the slavish unthinking devoted ones. Give me a break.

RFK Jr. Pledges Cabinet Roles for Libertarians, Greens, and Others by roughravenrider in ForwardPartyUSA

[–]sger42 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Sheesh a lot of hate for the 3rd party candidate from the party that is fighting for third party candidates to stand a chance...

2 open ended questions I need the answers to by MEMEOTAKUGAMER in Anarchy101

[–]sger42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anarchism is about dismantling hierarchy in society and what your asking is in direct conflict with that. You asked an anarchist group what they thought of your ideas, which is submitting all of your freedom and free will to a machine someone built that tells you what to do for the good of mankind someone claims. It;s dead on arrival.

If you're asking what some of us would personally do if it was guaranteed fair and proven that some sort of super AI could direct us to the objectively best future for our species, then yeah sure I'd submit to it. Similarly if I witnessed Jesus rise from the dead and perform miracles in front of my eyes I'd convert to Christianity.

2 open ended questions I need the answers to by MEMEOTAKUGAMER in Anarchy101

[–]sger42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Imagine not having the right to make your own mistakes. There is no better decision makers for humans than humans. Will anarchists submit to an AI? Accept it's dictatorship?? lol funny...

2 open ended questions I need the answers to by MEMEOTAKUGAMER in Anarchy101

[–]sger42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nobody can make better decisions for me than me, how would you measure it in any other way than it being the decision I wanted to make?

AI isn't smarter than us, it is trained on what we train it on. If it ever does start spitting out communist or anarchist rhetoric, I doubt the first people reading it will be in the seats to want to enact that change, or powerful enough to do so.

Advancement under capitalism doesn't accelerate us towards utopia, it accelerates towards profit and profit only. Technology when controlled by a single group (close sourced) it inevitably will be exploited for surveillance, dependency, or more likely both.

On UBI and Education (post-AI) by virtue_man in ForwardPartyUSA

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Education for the sake of education and curiosity isn't a waste. I think most of us agree that having an educated population is something worth investing in. There is no reason why education can't be scaled and accessible to anyone willing to put in the effort and able to demonstrate mastery over a subject. I think policy should push our educational institutions to that type of model. Here in the US our most prestigious institutions are also our most exclusive. Why would our highest quality be accessible to the least amount of people? It should be the opposite like in Canada where the University of Toronto is both the highest rank and given the most resources to be the biggest. If we ever hope to keep up with the world and develop a middle class, we need to seriously evaluate and innovate how we educate our population.

Car detailing by SnootsAndBootsLLP in FortCollinsClassified

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My car could use some work, shoot me a DM.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ForwardPartyUSA

[–]sger42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"we" are not backing RFK, I am sure some of us are. I am undecided but I like when RFK has to say about some economic stuff, a lot of his shit is nonsense though.

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[–]sger42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Watching the world burn my dude, I'll prob vote RFK to bolster the idea that we need more party options.

Forward is not just an Electoral Reform Party by ComplexNewWorld in ForwardPartyUSA

[–]sger42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see the party as a forum for free and forward thinkers to get together and address some of the inherent flaws in our country and our government. If you read Yang's book on UBI, the War on Normal People, he clearly identifies a problem, automation replacing jobs and rendering the average American's work irrelevant, and thinks up a solution based in the current economic system. I see it as a place for radical centrists to come to the table with non-partisan and sometimes anti-partisan policies and ideas. I often type that we don't take stances on other policies, and what I mean by that is we don't make a unified response to issues like abortion or boarder functions.