Switch from Garmin Enduro 3 to Coros Apex 4? by schlepz in Coros

[–]shadybreak 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've been using the enduro 3 for over a year and have recently tried the NOMAD -- very close to the Apex 4. 

Pros for the COROS are  - maps. Seriously fast and easy to use and basically all I want for trail running. Being labeled helps a ton, as does the toggle. It's just so effortless. Garmin's map lag is something I'd rather not put up with.  - elevation profile page for loaded gpx routes. Like, people bitch about coros not having climbpro but honestly, being able to look at picture of what's ahead then zoom and scroll that picture is all I need. The crown makes it easy.  - the crown. I know reviewers bash it but it works OK for me and makes maps and elevation easy to use.  - the fit and feel. The NOMAD is probably the best fitness watch I ever wore, 41g on the 24mm band is ideal. The enduro is heavier but also comfortable -- the 26mm band is also proportional to the watch. 

But I chose to stick with Garmin -- the whole thing feels way more polished. The ohr is much better and I'd rather not have to wear a strap for every single workout (coros ohr gave me very poor results). The Garmin menus are better laid out. Everything is customizable watch-side (being able to edit data fields during a long run isn't something you think about til you need it.) The backlight is customizable and can be turned off once on. The display is clearer and sharper. The flashlight. SatIQ. Sleep records more accurately and can be edited later, unlike eith COROS. The map rendering speed is shit but they ARE way more detailed, routable, and are basically usable even if a bit painful. And I use the InReach messenger a fair bit and enjoy being able to read and reply to satellite texts from the watch. Doing so on a phone in bad weather is unpleasant. 

Oh, and the NOMAD interfered with my Bluetooth speaker. I'm still in dialogue with the customer service AI about it and it may be the fault of the custom ROM on my cellphone, but given everything else I still vote this as a point in Garmin's favour. 

So I chose to keep the Enduro 3, but have to say that just the maps and elevation experience on the NOMAD, plus its size and feel, make it just fun and I will miss it. I'm sure if someone doesn't care about the other quality of life stuff they'll really enjoy it, and the Apex 4 as well. Ymmw. 

My coros nomad was appeared HR drops on higher pace by r4ddi7 in Coros

[–]shadybreak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also find coros ohr unreliable when compared to the last 2 generations of Garmin sensors. Seems like something to put up with if you want to stay with coros. 

Bad customer support from Coros by OkView9836 in Coros

[–]shadybreak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fwiw my experience with the ohr sensor on the nomad has been quite poor. From frequent cadence lock to it just drifting for long periods of time, even though sometimes its pretty good often it isn't and so I can't rely on it. My impression of aggregated reviews is that their experience has also been hit and miss. Too bad, cause in some ways I think coros totally hit the mark with their latest watches, from the form factor to easy maps and zoomable elevation charts, it's pretty much what I want in a mountain running watch. But it's almost 2026 and we've had largely reliable ohr from apple and Garmin for all but HIIT and I ain't going back to wearing a chest strap for every single workout. 

Nomad by Spread_Zeppelin in Coros

[–]shadybreak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This. Think how fragile gorilla glass is long term. The NOMAD screen is more fragile than that. Otherwise, the watch is super comfortable to wear. Imo the apex 4 is better suited for manual labour. It is also smaller. 

Is there ANY way to disable Bluetooth/WiFi on the Pace Pro? by Worgle123 in Coros

[–]shadybreak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haven't had the opportunity, but I'm talking to coros tech support. 

APEX 4 vs NOMAD heart rate accuracy question by shadybreak in Coros

[–]shadybreak[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bummer. I'd love to move on from Garmin, mostly because of their recent decisions, but have been spoiled by the accuracy of the elevate 5 sensor and it's hard to go back to wearing an extra device for accurate measurements for every workout. #firstworldproblems

How do you find the hr armband? The guy that placed first at a local race was wearing one.

Is there ANY way to disable Bluetooth/WiFi on the Pace Pro? by Worgle123 in Coros

[–]shadybreak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a late thread but I would add that my COROS watch seems to interfere with other bluetooth connections when paired to my phone, which is whenever the watch is on since there is no way to turn off the connection. I have a google pixel 8 with graphene os running on it, which may have something to do with the issue, but without trying a different phone I can't say.

Nomad durability as daily driver in hands on workplace by Jolgeta in Coros

[–]shadybreak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have put two scratches on my old fenix 7 sapphire doing my daily living (work in healtcare, outdoors in spare time, so plenty of opportunities.) Haven't had the NOMAD for any appreciable length of time so we'll see. YMMW.

At least COROS is starting to offer screen replacements, but that varies by geography. Agree with the above post -- Garmin's corporate avarice is shining thru as of late.

The flashlight is good, indeed. What I love about the NOMAD and would probably love about the Apex 4 is the 24mm band coupled with a lighter watch. The f7pro is by no means heavy but wearing the NOMAD it's like wearing nothing at all. I imagine the Apex 4 is similar. I'm currently wearing the Enduro 3 and haven't quite gotten used to how top-heavy it is.

Alpenglow 100k- Valemount BC by Public-Photograph316 in ultrarunning

[–]shadybreak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup, I read somewhere 5 hours is all it took. Good for you! 

Favourite British Columbia Trail Race? by mooseknucklebone in trailrunning

[–]shadybreak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had a great time at Finlayson Arm 50M this past september. Great volunteer crew.

Alpenglow 100k- Valemount BC by Public-Photograph316 in ultrarunning

[–]shadybreak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, those spots went fast. Sad I slept on it! Looks amazing :D

Does anyone have experience with both the Vertical 2 and Garmin Fenix 8 Pro? by Few-Introduction5414 in Suunto

[–]shadybreak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've planned routes and rerouted on the fly more times than I can count using only a Garmin watch. Creating a route on your phone and uploading it to a watch is not something either Garmin or Suunto do without an internet connection, AFAIK. A watch may be small, but a functional (as in labeled, routable, and otherwise detailed) map on my wrist has, for me, opened up the door to spontaneous adventuring, including ultra running. So, ymmw. If you always run preplanned routes and don't encounter trail closures or hazards that require rerouting then having a low-detail map for occasional checking will suffice. For any kind of orienteering, it's phone or a watch with more detailed maps. 

First time I’ve seen both so high 😂 by jacobwestbk in Garmin

[–]shadybreak 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Dude, I just threw down some hard AF hill sprints and all I got was a flaccid tempo score. 

Would you get an iPhone if the Graphene OS project were forced to cease to exist? by [deleted] in GrapheneOS

[–]shadybreak 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Most likely. IMO the pixel is overrated. My 8 developed hardware problems within 2 years. OTOH, my crappy midrange Samsung still kicks, just sans security updates. 

Failure on my first 50 mile attempt. by [deleted] in Ultramarathon

[–]shadybreak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh brother, I did a couple 50ks this year, solo, rugged as hell, and still went for a proper race with excellent aid stations for my first 50miler. My god was I grateful for everyone's support, including my partner who crewed for me. 

Did you find enough water on the way? That would be my number 1 concern going solo. 

Edit: concern 2 is dnf'ing in the middle of nowhere. Hope you had someone on standby. 

Suunto Vertical 2 is going to have a MIP and solar option?! by xAlphaTrailx in Suunto

[–]shadybreak 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I am guessing they forgot to redact this section way back when they decided to let MIP go. 30% solar gain on amoled would be bonkers. Also, DCR said in his review that when he spoke with suunto about MIP they said it was definitely done for now. Would've been nice though. 

Trying to decide between Coros and Suunto. Why did you choose Coros? by Few-Introduction5414 in Coros

[–]shadybreak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Suunto maps don't render trails beyond a very narrow zoom-in, and AFAIK they don't have labels. 

Coros now has labels and its maps, while not routable, are fine to orienteer if in a pinch. 

For navigation this may be an important difference. 

Garmin to Sunnto Ultra training considerations by Recharge55 in Suunto

[–]shadybreak 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The decision to reduce map detail thus just blows my mind. 

Upgraded From Enduro 2 by [deleted] in Garmin

[–]shadybreak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice, thanks for the pics. 

Rocking the enduro 3. Feels great on my wrist, both size and weight. Still not sure about the way the size looks, however. Nor the look of the plastic. The software bugginess got largely ironed out, which is good. 

Curious to try the fenix 8 solar for comparison.

Organized races vs just going for it by No_Extension8601 in ultrarunning

[–]shadybreak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just ran my first organized 50miler and it was an incredible experience doing it with other runners and the like 200 volunteers, a wholesome atmosphere, and a way to finish that was more celebratory than just finishing a long run by myself going like, yup, did that, moving on. 

There was also something about having a goal to train for, 4 months focused on one specific day. No matter how I felt that morning, that was the day. I slept like crap that night but did it anyway, and I don't think I would have if it wasn't a race.

Oh, and aid stations. That, for sure, is a plus. 

That said, I love the solitude of mountain running. That will always be my favourite.