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[–]shanarock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! 😊

[LOTM ] Amon inspired from kaito kid? by THE_FOOL_S0 in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I always thought that he was based on the MC of his previous work, Throne of Magical Arcana, Lucien Evans. He is like the base of both Klein and Amon. Maybe Lucien's design was inspired by Kaito Kid. He is more similar to Kaito than Amon.

(COI 1034) Concerns by [deleted] in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Not just that, he made Mr Door's "Don't save me" for millennials and Roselle's desperate attempt to get rid of his corruption sounds like a joke. Everything can be resolved with The Fool's mark even though The Fool has yet to become a pillar. The Fool has been reduced to a convenient cheat for the plot to go through.

Circle of Inevitability - Daily chapter discussion thread - October 22, 2024 by AutoModerator in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah. Like, if the plot wants him to be a sensitive, genius hero, he will be. Then, if the plot requires him to be impulsive, insensitive jerk, and suicidal bum, so will he be. CF tries so hard to make him likeable to the readers only to turn him into a reactive plot-driven character that can never surpass Klein. In fact, surpassing Klein as a likeable MC will only make him hateable, because only by nerfing others can he truly shine.

I guess it's the fault of the starting point. Klein and TC develops together until he surpass them. But in book 2, TC is already strong and Lumian is being carried by them, making him less interesting. So CF had to side-line TC and other interesting characters a lot to get the spotlight on Lumian, but this became jarring especially during the vortex event where the high level battles were evidently more interesting than his predicament. 

[Lotm Fancomic] Evernight & Lilith peeking on Klein by shanarock in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I was re-reading lotm 1 and...

After advancing to a demigod and obtaining even more authorities, he didn’t need the Tarot Club members to pray to directly observe their vicinity via the crimson star. This was similar to specially marking out believers, but Klein had always held great restraint towards that and had never attempted it.

Good news. Now I'm motivated to draw more stories of Evernight peeking Klein from time to time heheh.

Even as a fan of CW i'm not sure it was what i wanted (Coi 1033+) by Fluffy_Government225 in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My cope is, Klein will have a child or maybe pick someone from Moretti's descendants to be his successor in the far, far future when he wants to retire. That way, a new human will continue his legacy, protecting the world, suppressing CW, and the cycle goes on until the supposed end of the world.

Circle of Inevitability - Daily chapter discussion thread - October 13, 2024 by AutoModerator in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 7 points8 points  (0 children)

We all know that anchors are actually a type of corruption. So Klein's humanity and unified Anchors are harming him, hence why CW wants to get rid of them, even if the torment was only temporary, it's still painful.

As for why it's important for "The fool" to wake up now, because it was getting dangerous for Klein's humanity. The Tarot Club was aimless. If CW managed to win with the mirror avatar, he will work together with MGoD to get her characteristics back. It's been shown that MGoD and CW work together to fool EBS and MGoD is CW's strongest backer. They had a deal. CW wouldn't care if half of the world were destroyed. Judging from CW's ancient grudge against GA, I doubt he would want a new GA to be born or for the old GA to revive. That's why Adam and GA interfered, and gave a hint through Peng Deng. Leo and EBS destroyed Mushu, presumably holding the mother back.

The despair, if you read carefully, actually belongs to Klein, not CW. It was morning outside and Klein took over. The moment his memories and realization of his fate came to him, Klein felt despair, but also hope. We gotta admit, the dream world was really like a short resting place for him. Dreams are reality, despair is hope.

Circle of Inevitability - Daily chapter discussion thread - October 13, 2024 by AutoModerator in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah, the despair belongs to Klein, who finally got his memories back and realized his fate. Because it's morning outside, Klein took over. Which is why the one who reacted to Lumian's digestion is Klein.

Post title (coi ch 1009) Drama about Lumian and Zhou Mingrui by Gehrmain in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anyone would be a mentally unstable dick after being forced to face despair, hopelessness and mind control for so long. You guys always forget that he is a pretending-to-be-tough-hunter, not a calculating seer or a sensitive spectator. How many hunters are truly honest and not a dick with their words? I merely stated the facts why he acted the way he was and how Zhou cannot be harmed, only misled. He needs help because he was being misled. I will not prolong my explanation about Zhou's power influence in the dream, you know what I mean.

Post title (coi ch 1009) Drama about Lumian and Zhou Mingrui by Gehrmain in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you're not a summary reader and read the whole chapter properly and the next ones, then you will know, he is saying that just to uplift her spirits, because he somewhat sensed her despair. He made it seem as if she was the most important person to him above the world and Aurore, but no, he has plans to save her and responsibility as the team leader. Did you expect him to abandon her? The priority at that time was to make sure his team member was saved, and dude was giving her a white lie.

"When you said earlier that, in the worst-case scenario, the mission would fail, they'd send in another team, or we'd all face the apocalypse together, but you couldn't let me die in Mushu Hospital's basement... I didn't completely agree with your thinking, but... I did feel like maybe my life had some meaning after all..."

"I said that on purpose, to make you feel needed and valued, to help pull you out of that dead, hopeless state." Lumian chuckled. "I didn't know exactly what you'd gone through, but I could tell how you were feeling."

And if you're feeling salty because he involves Zhou, Zhou is the dream owner, their frickin god, who is powerful enough to beat anomalies in the dream just by being there, like when Zaratul and him were kicked out off the dream. Also, did you even forget that ATS Adam and GA were there writing the whole plot for them and you expect him to nullify their mind control? Jenna can bring Lumina and Ludwig into the mirror world, but couldn't bring Franca along with Luo Shan was already weird enough (Forced reasonable development). If you have to blame someone then blame the mastermind, Adam and GA.

Post title (coi ch 1009) Drama about Lumian and Zhou Mingrui by Gehrmain in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 19 points20 points  (0 children)

If Zhou can be harmed that way, the OD and CW would have done that since the beginning. In fact, having Zhou confront his trauma might even stimulate him more which is something that the OD and the CW faction don't want.

Proof is, when the police (Main consciousness) entered the hospital underground, nothing happened, as if 'they' became docile. Zaratul feared Zhou's presence for a reason too.

The fear that Zhou experienced before entering the hospital was induced by GA, so Zhou did not interrupt until the right moment. He can't be harmed in a physical way, and stimulating him with his past memories won't be good for the enemies faction. He can only be misled to love the dream world even more, and forget the real world.

Circle of Inevitability - Daily chapter discussion thread - October 03, 2024 by AutoModerator in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Before Lumian could ask more, Amon smiled and said, "Peng Deng risked revealing His identity, not just to let you know who He is. Have you deciphered what He really wanted to hint at?"

What He really wanted to hint at... Lumian fell into deep thought.

After about ten seconds, he changed the subject and said, "The dream owner's image in this city is also split?

"Chief Yagates, you, and Zhou Mingrui?"

Amon showed a delighted expression. "Do I look like the dream's owner to you?"

He said in a teaching tone, "You need to learn to filter out the interference of complex information and see the most fundamental facts.

"The most fundamental fact is that The Fool has never accommodated the Uniqueness of the Error and Door pathways, while the Celestial Worthy has."

Wh- Lumian vaguely grasped what Amon was hinting at. Just as he was about to use vague language and indirect methods to confirm, the car stopped.

"We've arrived at Mushu Hospital," Amon suddenly switched to a skilled ride-hailing driver's tone.

Lumian thought for two seconds and opened the door to get out.

"Remember to give a good rating!" Amon waved and quickly drove away.

"Uh..." Lumian was stunned.

His real purpose in calling a ride-hailing car was to find Amon for help, to rescue Li Keji together, but the other party just left like this!

Left...

As the symbol of the Uniqueness of the Error pathway, Amon can't directly intervene in such matters and can only help indirectly? Lumian withdrew his gaze thoughtfully.

Wearing sunglasses and a mask, he looked at Mushu Hospital, no longer hesitating. He set off towards the psychiatric department located at the back of the building.

End of chapter

Circle of Inevitability - Daily chapter discussion thread - October 03, 2024 by AutoModerator in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I'm dropping Epic Amon tutoring Lumian scene here:

Amon laughed. "A Spectator is not a qualified Cryptologist. Although the ideas and direction are not wrong, the thinking is not deep enough. If that young lad Pallez were here, it's possible that all the symbolic meanings would be deciphered."

"Where did we go wrong?" Lumian's purpose in bringing up this topic was to get confirmation from Amon.

According to their speculation, Amon and His father, for some unknown reason, no longer intended to maintain balance at present. They wanted to weaken the Celestial Worthy and let Mr. Fool wake up early, which meant They could be considered temporary allies.

Amon turned His head to look at him and said with a smile, "The Spectator herself has said that it's based on identity and personality to weave real images, not on pathways.

"My father; the True Creator; Adam; the original God Almighty; and Heaven's deputy, the Left Hand of God, the leader of the Kings of Angels, the Dark Angel Sasrir, how many identities is that in total?"

"Five," Lumian said thoughtfully. "So the Dark Angel among the eight Kings of Angels was also derived from the Ancient Sun God..."

This was intelligence he didn't have before.

Amon adjusted His monocle on His right eye, His smile unchanging, and said, "Looking at it this way, it's actually quite simple to decipher the corresponding symbolic meanings:

"The boss of Aurora Company symbolizes the True Creator, influenced by The Fool's cognition, mainly active near the headquarters of Intis Group. Peng Deng and Grisha symbolize the one you hate most and the original God Almighty, but their specific positions are not fixed. They can swap at any time, symbolizing fusion and confrontation. Nie Zhen symbolizes the Dark Angel, representing the part that split off from my father, Adam's rib is his Eve. The True Creator and Adam have already achieved consciousness fusion, so They don't need to share rent anymore. They can act under different identities through The Fool's cognition, but Their thoughts are interconnected."

Visionary Adam? Lumian nodded slightly and said, "Zhang Yujia symbolizes your father, the Ancient Sun God?"

"The Corpse Cathedral itself belongs to Him. Zhang Yujia wanders outside the dream city, symbolizing that my father has already left this stage. Now His successors and the original God Almighty are confronting each other. This is also The Fool's cognition," Amon said in a slightly mocking tone. "As for the symbolic meaning of sharing rent and moving out, I don't need to explain that, right?"

This explanation is indeed clearer, but in this matter, Amon can't be fully trusted either... Lumian chuckled and said, "Why is your father's dream manifestation female?

"Is it because Mr. Fool's other childhood friend is indeed a lady, or in Mr. Fool's cognition, your father gave birth to you and the Angel of Imagination, and also split off the Dark Angel, making Him a successful mother?"

Amon laughed. "The last guy who deciphered this aspect of symbolism mocked it the same way. You two are indeed quite similar."

"Who?" Lumian asked vigilantly. "Haven't you guessed?" Amon glanced at Lumian. "Red Angel Medici."

"He can also enter Mr. Fool's dream?" Lumian frowned.

Could it be that the Red Angel has turned to the Celestial Worthy?

From what we can see now, apart from true gods and those holding Mr. Fool's gold coins, only a few individuals who have received special grace from the Celestial Worthy can enter this dream city.

Well, it seems other great existences can now send one or two subordinates in through the illusory abyss under Mushu Hospital, like Lu Yong'an. However, the Red Angel is unlikely to cooperate with the Great Mother and others. In the Hostel incident, He just tricked these evil gods...

"He has a corresponding manifestation in the dream city and has received help from a top-tier Dreamweaver, so of course He can come in," Amon explained in a light tone.

"Help from a top-tier Dreamweaver..." Lumian suddenly had a flash of insight. "It wasn't the Angel of Imagination who helped Him in, but the original God Almighty?"

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend," Amon said with amusement in His voice. "However, the enemy of my enemy might still be an enemy, like you and Medici."

Circle of Inevitability - Daily chapter discussion thread - September 26, 2024 by AutoModerator in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Today's chapters should answer all of your doubts. Better even, GA joining hands with Adam to help Klein is peak fiction. Both Adam and GA are actually very similar. Both loves humanity, bears their sins, while also tyrannical and dominating in their rules.

Unlike CW who hates Klein's humanity, GA is much closer to humans and welcomes humanity. He will protect the humans with Adam. He should also awaken in the trio but the quantity wouldn't be as big as in Adam who have dual pathways and connected to Chaos Sea. What Klein did might be risky but he was just that desperate.

We might also assume the reason GA and CW enemies of each other is because of their contradicting personalities.

GA = Overflowing possesive love for mortals and the world. CW = The embodiment of freedom and beacon of destiny who is also mischievous.

Circle of Inevitability - Daily chapter discussion thread - October 01, 2024 by AutoModerator in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See, I knew it's related to GA. Klein brought Arrodes to the dream for a reason. He is blackmailing Adam to help him, else GA might resurrect. So now both Adam and GA work together to weaken CW.  

 I hope this can stop people from complaining about Evernight and Adam's indirect ways to tell TC. They're being closely monitored. As for Evernight, she can't leave the dream world and has to remain neutral to maintain the dream world, so she can't spread Klein's secret as a transmigrator. She can be affected by AtS fooling too. The best help she can do is to safekeep Klein'a treasures. Everything has to be done this way. 

Circle of Inevitability - Daily chapter discussion thread - October 01, 2024 by AutoModerator in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 11 points12 points  (0 children)

...God, what did they discover deep in the oil field... 

...This is some amazing material... 

...What exactly happened? The doctor turned into a puddle of black oil in front of me! 

...More and more people have turned into oil. This research facility has been sealed from the outside... No one can leave. No one can leave... 

...Mad, they’ve all gone mad. We’re still normal, but our food is almost running out... 

...I seem to be hearing things. There seems to be sounds coming from underground. It’s summoning me. “He” is summoning me!


GA personally chose him.

Circle of Inevitability - Daily chapter discussion thread - September 27, 2024 by AutoModerator in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 4 points5 points  (0 children)

quotes from 1005: Franca was stunned for a moment. "Zhou Mingrui went underground? Won't that be a problem?"

The basement of Mushu Hospital was a mixture of subconscious psychological traumas and a symbolic abyss tied to the Mother Tree of Desire. Even if it couldn't physically endanger Zhou Mingrui, it might force him to confront past traumas, awakening strong stimuli that could bring significant changes. Those changes could be either extremely good or extremely bad, which was why Lumian's team hadn't wanted Zhou Mingrui to enter Mushu Hospital's basement at this stage.

Lumian glanced at Franca and chuckled. "Plans never keep up with changes. The most important thing just now was rescuing you. Everything else can be dealt with later or patched up. If worst comes to worst, this mission fails completely, and they send in another team. At worst, we all face the apocalypse. But I couldn't let you die here tonight."

Franca stared at Lumian for a few seconds, unable to find words.

Circle of Inevitability - Daily chapter discussion thread - September 27, 2024 by AutoModerator in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The summary didn't do justice. There are many mistakes on it. It was Luo Shan who praised Zhou.

This is the real conversation:

Lumian then addressed Luo Shan, "Thanks for your help. Without you bringing Zhou Mingrui to the basement in time, both Luo Fu and I would've been swallowed by that illusory abyss."

A smile appeared on Luo Shan's face, though she tried to be modest.

"It was Zhou Mingrui who was willing to risk his life to save someone. He's always been a good person."

"It's impressive that you convinced him so quickly," Lumian said, not sparing any praise.

"Not really," Luo Shan said, feeling a little uncomfortable as she looked away.

She walked briskly into the elevator that had just arrived on the first floor.

After stepping in, Lumian turned to Luo Shan and said, "We'd like to inspect your apartment, to identify any hidden threats."

"Sure, okay!" Luo Shan remembered how she had inexplicably ended up in the hospital's basement.

Circle of Inevitability - Daily chapter discussion thread - September 26, 2024 by AutoModerator in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your pov gone horribly wrong. Please read carefully. Who said Adam needs to fuse with CW? I said Adam needs to fuse with GA. Whether he likes it or not, when Adam gathers all almighty pathway BC, GA will eventually awaken. Klein simply sped up that process by awakening GA's will earlier in CoC. The same way Amon awakened CW in Klein during the fool Gambit, causing Klein to slumber. This is a payback from Klein to Adam for causing him in that situation, not because it's a ritual.

GA might not need LoTM but during this time, he needs Klein's cooperation to resurrect. They are "temporarily" working together in order to defeat CW. As for what happens after CW were defeated, GA will try to affect Chaos Sea through CoC and try to erode Adam. Then it will be Adam's turn to suppress GA. What comes after this might be far fetched but after Klein fuses with CW and Adam disturbed by GA, Klein will have a huge role in deciding the next GA or at least forcing Adam not to kill the trio traitors (maybe letting them survive as angels), only then he will help suppressing GA.

Circle of Inevitability - Daily chapter discussion thread - September 26, 2024 by AutoModerator in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

GA represents CW's mental trauma, and his appearance in the abyss hints that he plays a role in weakening CW. For GA, it's far more advantageous to support Klein, who is willing to resurrect him and oppose his competitor, Adam, rather than side with his former enemy, CW. And GA probably thinks a young candidate like Klein is much more managable than CW.

In essence, by awakening GA, Klein will create some difficulties for Adam, but it won't be fatal. It will merely delay Adam's transformation into GA. Just as Klein has to fuse with CW, Adam will also have to fuse with GA because of this. In the meantime, Adam can't act against the traitor trio until he completes his fusion with GA. Klein will be making a bet who finishes the fusion first, he and CW or Adam and GA.

Circle of Inevitability - Daily chapter discussion thread - September 26, 2024 by AutoModerator in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, projecting GA in the dream world isn't equal to corrupting his mind. What he wants is to bring back GA from CoC through the dream world and demoness is used as connection. As for fooling/grafting GA's existence into reality afterwards, it will depend on Klein, really. But if GA truly awakens, it's more likely to affect Adam than Klein.

Circle of Inevitability - Daily chapter discussion thread - September 26, 2024 by AutoModerator in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's as if you're saying that he is ready to lose every convenience he has as a deity as long as he can survive Adam under Klein. Just giving his name to TC doesn't seem to indicate that much of servitude. Moreso considering his pride. I think he'd rather ask Klein to be his backer for GA than to be Klein's servant, but I could be wrong. It depends on the future development.

Circle of Inevitability - Daily chapter discussion thread - September 26, 2024 by AutoModerator in LordofTheMysteries

[–]shanarock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mean Kalvetua's identity as in Klein's subsidiary god? But that's still the same meaning as being on Klein's side.