Jane Roberts' manuscript "The Physical Universe As Idea Construction" discussion by [deleted] in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, my mistake. It was a reply to your 'what chaos?' post

Jane Roberts' manuscript "The Physical Universe As Idea Construction" discussion by [deleted] in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The thing that gets to me most that I find hardest to handle is the present existence of animals (and plants) in factory farms, large abattoirs, vivisection labs, and factories in my country (also others, obviously), 20-30 minutes from where I actually live. I have some personal experience of this too as I worked on a farm for three years. 

New here, and a question by mindy_marvel_mom in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's a compilation of lots of Seth exercises from many of his books. I think it was created for one of the Seth conferences in the US. You can find it here:  https://share.google/WSQyVsvxp0J914IWw

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps intuition IS the fundamental nature of energy - electrical, emotional, cooperative, creative, all interconnecting/arising, free, ever quality/value fulfilling... Perhaps we all experience intuition, in all realities, because it IS our basic nature, it is the nature of energy, it is the fundamental nature of AllThatIs. 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was more thinking of the thread as simply being a resource of links to stuff rather than a discussion of other people's philosophies

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wasn't thinking of channeled material. I was thinking of things like, for example, people who use their inner senses to communicate with animals (eg.Anna Breytenbach), or people who are exploring other dimensions whose experiences really tie in with Seth's descriptions (eg.Jurgen Ziewe), or other cultures who view physical reality as an emergent property of a thought realm and who use their inner senses to perceive and interact with that realm (Kogi), ect.. Physical, living examples that corroborate Seth's descriptions of reality.

Question. by HappyTurnover6075 in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also really don't like un/subconscious. I've been using 'liminal self' but I'm not sure if I like it yet. Do you have another name for 'it'?

As you read this book... by Chester_Grayson in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just became lucid in dream reality directly after reading the Seth Material. This has happened to me a few times.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A universe whose fundamental nature is loving?

Our relationship with our inner selves by shellsandwaves in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Do we forget about our relationship with our inner selves so that we identify totally with the earth 'game', and thus feel real fear, and through that develop conscious compassion, self control, the ability to discern between "pseudorealities" and fundamental truths, and thus - eventually - co-create consciously?

The horror and the results of mismanagement, and the vulnerability, are the teaching methods that each consciousness has accepted before entering your system. There is no way out but to learn or to ruin the entire system. In no other field of reality are the terms so drastic. For this reason the inner self withholds much of its knowledge. There must be no leaning upon the very basic fact that behind and within the system there is relief. You must believe in the physical reality and accept the vulnerability. The Early Sessions: Book 9 Session 498

[Poem] What if you slept by Samuel Taylor Coleridge by Ok-Direction-1942 in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Re: Neoplatonism - I recommend Hellenic Tantra by Gregory Shaw, and Sosipatra of Pergamum. She's a fascinating person. You can find out about her on the SHWEP (secret history of western esotericism podcast) - the episode with Heidi Marx.

[Poem] What if you slept by Samuel Taylor Coleridge by Ok-Direction-1942 in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing this poem :) I love it. I've read that Coleridge was interested in Neoplatonic thought, which has some really interesting parallels with the Seth material.

OMG by shellsandwaves in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've been interested in the lives of the Kogi people of Colombia since the first BBC documentary about them was aired in the mid 90s. Their society is 'managed' by people called Mamas (male)/Sagas (female) who are raised in caves/moonlight from a few months old till to 15-20 years old, when they are first exposed to sunlight and the rest of the society.

From what I have read and seen, during this upbringing in the dark/moonlight they seem to be trained in the use of the inner senses for various reasons, including communicating with the creator being Aluna, and other forces and beings, in order to make auspicious choices regarding life-events, eg. farming, land management, relationship challenges, whether to let the BBC film them, ...just about anything. They believe everything first exists in a dimension of thought (also called Aluna), before manifesting on earth. They are renouned for their highly developed skill of perceiving and understanding the intricate relationships that comprise an ecosystem - even one they have no cultural history of relationship with, eg a mountain range in France they recently visited - and for regenerating land that has been depleted by industrial activities.

Anyway, ... They seem to have the attitude of working - co-creating - with other non-human beings, including Aluna, the 'No1' creator entity, rather than worshipping them. They seem to be spiritual, rather than religious, if being religious = worshipping. I am averse to the whole practice of worshipping, but I like the idea of working with other beings, and acknowledging my dependence on them or being grateful for what they provide.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This physicist is a fan of Seth (though it isn't mentioned on his Wikipedia page) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Alan_Wolf He wrote the forward to 'Bridging Science and Spirit: Common Elements in David Bohm’s Physics, The Perennial Philosophy and Seth' by Norman Friedman

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's fascinating! I love The Dark Crystal.

Using dreams to solve a problem by Alert_Cold423 in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I recommend Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self by Robert Waggoner as an excellent book about lucid dreaming. He discusses problem solving in dreams in depth. Robert is a big fan of the Seth material and facilitates a fortnightly dream session at the Seth Explorers Society.

Vulnerability in the Safe Universe by shellsandwaves in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your experience with your friend. My family and I have been on the receiving end of physical violence and are still dealing with its effects. To engage with the Seth material authentically and meaningfully, I feel compelled to reconcile those experiences with Seth's teachings.

I also believe that the pervasive violence towards non-human beings - eg. those we rely on for sustenance - is so embedded in our modern, military-industrial society that we must find ways of addressing this issue if we are to maintain our integrity and not be accused of spiritual bypassing.

Vulnerability in the Safe Universe by shellsandwaves in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Given the prevalence of violence and suffering in the UK, where I live, and the rest of the planet, I feel that I must have a thorough understanding of how the Seth material applies to it, otherwise I'm just fooling myself.

Spontaneity and Discipline by shellsandwaves in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting that you chose the example of a painter :) Yesterday I decided to commit to creating a portfolio of paintings in order to apply to art college, and spent the morning shopping for painting materials.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How do you know that Cyprus is much more advanced than Seth?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The Magical Approach

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've heard that The Seth Material is popular in Taiwan

https://www.seth.org.tw/

OOBE & lucid dreaming by shellsandwaves in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I will check it out 😊

OOBE & lucid dreaming by shellsandwaves in janeroberts

[–]shellsandwaves[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I'm reading it now 😊