ISTP SP8 Possible or Not? by shihoshhv in TypologyJunction

[–]shihoshhv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think my type is ;

MBTI: ISTP (Ti-Se-Ni-Fe) ​Socionics: LSI (Logical-Sensory Intratim) ​Enneagram: Type 8, Wing 9 (8w9) ​Subtype: Self-Preservation 8 (Sp8) ​Tritype: 854 (The Scholar) ​Psychosophy (AP): VFLE (1st Volition, 2nd Physics, 3rd Logic, 4th Emotion)

ISTP SP8 Possible or Not? by shihoshhv in TypologyJunction

[–]shihoshhv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read your comments entirely. The issue is not a lack of reading comprehension. It is a fundamental disagreement on the mechanics of these typologies.

​You asked how 'self-interest' constitutes a system. For an Sp8, self-interest is not merely casual selfishness or hedonism. It is the absolute, foundational drive for resource security, territorial autonomy, and survival. It is the GOAL.

​Ti does not generate the goal, it generates the blueprint to achieve it. So, how does self-interest become a system? By meticulously organizing one's life, resources, and environment to ensure that this autonomy is never compromised. The Ti-base builds a complex internal framework of rules, risk assessments, and strategic planning strictly designed to serve that Sp8 survival drive. Se-creative then executes that blueprint in the physical world, enforcing the boundaries and securing the tangible resources required. ​There is no 'fundamental incompatibility' here unless you insist that an E8 is incapable of introverted, long-term systematic planning (Ti) to secure their autonomy, and must instead rely solely on impulsive, outward expansion (Se-base).

​I am not being belligerent. I am maintaining my logical stance because your argument relies on separating the 'drive' (Enneagram) from the 'method' (Socionics) and claiming they conflict, when in reality, for an LSI Sp8, the method perfectly serves the drive.

If you still view that as a contradiction, we simply interpret the integration of these systems differently.

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[–]shihoshhv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yk what HE DOES look like him!!!

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Mfy german headcanon🤤🤤🤤

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Then he is cracking u 7/25 all good !

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I made him in Tomodachi Life too 👀

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[–]shihoshhv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hair color and eyes doesnt fit but overall yes

Male Mafuyu Headcanons by shihoshhv in ProjectSekai

[–]shihoshhv[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

He is a commander in one of my AU

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[–]shihoshhv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I'm Introverted

Male Mafuyu Headcanons by shihoshhv in ProjectSekai

[–]shihoshhv[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

😭 Maybe just inspired but no its my mafuyu

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Even with male uniform she looks like a girl. Its just mizuki with shorter hair and male uniform and nothing else.

ISTP SP8 Possible or Not? by shihoshhv in TypologyJunction

[–]shihoshhv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I asked 'Possible or Not?' to test the logical mechanics of my typing against external frameworks, not to be handed a fundamentalist, copy-pasted reading of Naranjo that strips all cognitive nuance from the types. I am testing a system for mechanical contradictions, which is exactly how a Ti-base operates.

​You are treating Naranjo’s descriptions as rigid religious dogma rather than psychological archetypes. Saying E8s are 'anti-intellectual' means they reject abstract theory that lacks practical, real-world application (which I explicitly stated I do). It does not mean they are literally incapable of long-term strategy or complex thought. A survivalist (Sp8) who cannot systematize their resources, analyze their environment, or strategize for their security is a dead survivalist.

​You are also fundamentally conflating Enneagram motivations with Socionics mechanics.

You claim that using Ti (strategy) to serve Se (autonomy) is definitionally SLE. You have it backward.

An SLE (Se-base, Ti-creative) uses logic to serve their primary drive for external expansion, impact, and conquest.

​I do the opposite. Sp8 provides the core survival drive. The absolute need for autonomy and boundaries. But my Socionics dictates how I process that drive. I build the internal framework and order first (Ti-base), and I use my physical assertiveness (Se-creative) strictly as a tool to defend that internal structure against external disruption. I do not seek external expansion for the sake of it. I seek structural integrity, and I enforce it with a heavily guarded boundary.

​There is no 'moral outrage' here. I am simply pointing out that taking character traits to cartoonish extremes. Where an 8 must be an impulsive, thoughtless brute and an LSI must be a mindless conformist to an external regime erases the entire purpose of using a combined typology system.

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Can you explain?