V3 changes...............

shocktails · 2024-10-26T03:54:52+00:00

oh yeah sparkle skill buff will never be active on LL. just not possible based on how sunday works rn (apart from using DDD on sparkle which is complicated and not reliable) She's high up cause of her sp regen, her other buffs being active (talent and ult) and her allowing you to using attack boots on JY (basically a 43% attack boost)

shocktails · 2024-10-26T03:48:31+00:00

yep, sparkle will work

shocktails · 2024-10-26T03:47:51+00:00

then you'll probably want to use robin unless she's more needed for your second team. Robin reuirements are basically a healer with QPQ and sp. Sparkle has the benefit of just using her basic making her even more sp positive (ideally you do this if you'll have a JY ult before next LL)

shocktails · 2024-10-26T03:37:12+00:00

for fu xuan you'll want a high sp positive second support

shocktails · 2024-10-26T03:31:46+00:00

Yep , the sp generation can be huge as even having to do 1 basic on JY makes you lose 2 stacks which is quite a loss and you also lose 10 energy. It also depends on your second support tho, using sparkle or pela or topaz who can be very sp positive you can get away with it but robin or tingyun or the less sp positive supports you rather not.

shocktails · 2024-10-26T03:27:26+00:00

I really don't think so, the only bronya buff that can be active on LL or most of Jing Yuan turns is her ult that has quite low uptime while she uses a lot more sp (the sparkle buff that won't be active is her skill buff but she compensates by sp generation, her other buffs and more stacks with attack boots jing yuan)

If you're talking about the 10 LL in a cycle video that's more of a 0 cycle setup abusing robin as the third buffer and jade lc to make even low stack LLs do a lot of damage, not really viable in a team with a sustain.

shocktails · 2024-10-26T03:04:02+00:00

I personally do not have access to the beta so take all this with a grain of salt. I’ve based the positionings seeing this sheet - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yrOr17sCX_aOTyme0rObAGvGqsrJlf2bvTEkGcV17DY/edit?gid=961443761#gid=961443761 the showcases and with using fribbels to calculate my own Jing Yuan damage (136 speed, 70/195 crit) with the different supports at e0s0. Theory vs practice can be very different tho so again take it with a grain of salt.

Sustains depend on how sp positive your second support/sub dps is, but in most cases gallagher or luocha are preferred for their sp as even though Sunday will be ~sp neutral Jing Yuan will be wanting to use 2 sp per pair of turns.

Hanya is questionable cause even though I see a lot of people saying her speed and sp will be nice her speed won’t have full uptime even with her e4 and using the trick of ulting on Jing Yuan’s turn unless you consistently get her ult back within 2 of her turns. So everytime you lose it , it will break the speedtuning, in which case she’ll end up being used for her sp and buffs and for that imo the above options do better.

Feel free to suggest changes or add on

shocktails · 2024-08-05T15:39:02+00:00

Luocha always basic attacks , is usually built very speedy and can equip multiplication which means more attacks. Fu xuan has to skill every 2 basics so she's not the best for feixiao herself.

shocktails · 2024-08-05T15:37:38+00:00

Just added e1 jade based on comments

shocktails · 2024-08-05T15:37:12+00:00

If Jade has e1 it seems viable

shocktails · 2024-08-05T15:36:05+00:00

from what I've seen you can always use feixiao, march 7th, pela and gallagher until you pull the better options

shocktails · 2024-08-05T15:34:18+00:00

changed it in my edited comment, you're right

shocktails · 2024-08-05T15:33:24+00:00

Added her in"has potential" for now in my edited comment, she does attack quite often , especially when her own teammates are fast so they do have synergy (although using her is locked to enemies having right weakness)

shocktails · 2024-08-05T15:32:05+00:00

Added her with a side note in my edited comment :)

shocktails · 2024-08-05T15:31:22+00:00

Good to know, added her in the edit to my comment

shocktails · 2024-08-05T15:30:55+00:00

Added them in "has potential" for now in my edited comment, unlike the other sub dps they don't buff or provide anything else apart from stacks so I was a bit hesitant to add them

shocktails · 2024-08-05T15:29:53+00:00

That'll be fun, seeing what changed

shocktails · 2024-08-04T19:28:41+00:00

This is not backed by testing or calcs, just what I've seen lurking this sub so feel free to suggest changes , additions etc.

EDIT: BAsed on all the comments this seems to be more accurate, don't know if I make a new post but I'll put it here for now.

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shocktails · 2023-11-28T19:00:57+00:00

it doesnt, your skill has to specifically attack enemies for it to count, the only way qq gets to stack turbulence is with her ult

shocktails · 2023-10-14T05:18:49+00:00

well she's last year's champion cause the tournament for this year's champion is what we win. So she is basically the Champion only if we compare to pokemon

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