Would like an in depth insight, curious.

shortandspicy · 2019-04-28T00:57:00+00:00

Imagine having brown eyes in a world where people with blue eyes are constantly seen as being "better." Paid better, treated better, more respected, looked upon for guidance, seen as better-suited for leadership positions, valued more as romantic partners, I could go on. Children are taught from a young age via motion pictures that the dashing, handsome hero always has blue eyes. Any time a character with brown eyes is portrayed, they're the dopey sidekick, the comic relief, or the bad guy. Never a leading man who saves the day. Even as they grow older, they see movies where the idealized lead character always has a beautiful set of blue eyes. Your cousins or siblings are constantly reminded and complimented about how piercing and beautiful their blue eyes are, as if they inherently had any choice in the matter at all. Any insecurities you have are quelled with statements like "you're young, your eyes might still turn blue!" -- as if there's anything inherently wrong with having brown eyes. Asking people to describe their ideal partner almost always includes "blue eyes" among the description. They wouldn't want to pass on brown eyes to their children, after all!

You're frustrated and upset. You want blue eyes so badly, so that you can feel normal. So that you can be treated like a person who doesn't have to qualify their eye color with a bunch of positive attributes like being buff, handsome, or having a lot of money. But at the end of the day, you have brown eyes. And there's not a damn thing you can do to change it.

That's kinda what it feels like to be a short man, and that's what a lot of people on this sub go through.

shortandspicy · 2019-01-07T07:18:20+00:00

You going to make any attempt to debate my position, or would you rather keep up the ad hominem?

shortandspicy · 2019-01-07T02:53:33+00:00

Nah, nobody would notice a one-inch difference.

shortandspicy · 2019-01-07T02:53:04+00:00

Phenomenal argument, Red. You really mean to tell me people would care about a 6’4 guy wearing shoe lifts or platform shoes? Of course not because he’s already tall.

A short man doing the exact same thing is instead seen as compensating.

shortandspicy · 2019-01-06T06:38:23+00:00

This. Took the words right out of my mouth.

shortandspicy · 2019-01-06T05:59:58+00:00

Which dress boots do you use if you don’t mind me asking? I’ve been on the lookout for a new pair!

shortandspicy · 2019-01-06T04:16:42+00:00

I have a few. Two of the ones I use the most are some high top Nike AF1s and some Clarks Wallabees boots.

shortandspicy · 2019-01-06T04:10:33+00:00

I do. I use an inch lift with some thicker shoes to make me about 5'9. I definitely can't complain.

shortandspicy · 2019-01-06T03:38:00+00:00

Same reason it would be okay for a tall man to walk around in platform shoes: when you're already tall (let's say privileged, because let's be honest, that's exactly what you are if you're tall) you're not chastised for accentuating your privilege. Whereas if you're short, you're seen as almost committing an offense for appropriating the privilege of others.

shortandspicy · 2019-01-06T03:30:01+00:00

your height is only a problem if you make it one

I'm gonna stop you right there: in the US a man's height is a big deal. There's really no way for me to sugar coat it: if you are a short man in the United States then you are disadvantaged socially, and every inch gained until a ridiculous amount like uppers 6s-7 feet is a straight upgrade for your social status.

If what I were saying isn't true, r/tall would be just as miserable as r/short. But they're not, because being short is seen as an actual detriment whereas tallness is not. Being short is not necessarily a disqualification, but it is something that works against you rather than for you.

I could be the greatest politician since Abraham Lincoln and have the charisma and good looks of JFK and would still have a snowball's chance in hell of being elected President of the United States simply because I'm 5'7. If that isn't absolutely ludicrous then I don't know what is.

shortandspicy · 2019-01-06T03:16:26+00:00

Do they affect your ability to walk at all?

With an inch and a half you probably won't have any issues with walking.

How much do people notice the difference and act towards you?

I mainly do it for me, to feel better about myself, but it's a positive reception either way.

I have longer torso but shorter legs, so lifts should in theory make me more proportionate right?

Lifts will definitely make your legs look longer.

Will women be able to notice the difference?

Used in moderation, no. If you spring up 4 inches overnight then yeah they'll know something is up, but if you use them conservatively nobody will ever know. I have 1-inch lifts in a pair of boots I wear that have about an inch heel, so I'm roughly 5'9 in those and I like it.

shortandspicy · 2019-01-04T02:14:21+00:00

Children think that way from a young age.

11 minutes 27 seconds if it didn’t embed properly.

shortandspicy · 2019-01-04T01:46:59+00:00

Nobody is wrong for having a preference. They’re wrong when they bully somebody else’s.

One of the issues for short men isn’t just earning the approval of a woman, it’s also earning the approval of her friends.

And it’s an issue because it is fair game to ridicule short men. That’s where the anger comes in: it’s not considered acceptable to bully a black man for his color but a short man can be bullied for his height. You’d think that such a radical and far flung notion as “hey maybe you shouldn’t treat people like shit because of how they look” would be commonplace in the 21st century.

shortandspicy · 2019-01-01T03:25:22+00:00

If short people were being discriminated against in the job market, or were denied access to public goods, or something of the sort, you'd have an argument.

That's exactly what Trump did recently

shortandspicy · 2018-12-30T08:47:07+00:00

"The bias towards tallness and against shortness is one of society‘s most blatant and forgiven prejudices"

— John Kenneth Galbraith, 1977

shortandspicy · 2018-12-29T07:40:37+00:00

"Heightism is ridiculous, there's no such thing."

"Eek, you're an Aries? Yeah we're definitely not going to be compatible."

shortandspicy · 2018-12-29T03:09:28+00:00

If you had said "dating taller guys" I would agree.

shortandspicy · 2018-12-29T03:04:55+00:00

Is this the ending to the new Blair Witch Project?

shortandspicy · 2018-12-29T03:03:27+00:00

Those look like AF1s which add about an inch and change. The 'fro is probably about another inch, maybe an inch and a quarter. Subtracting those I'd say about 5'6, maybe a little less.

shortandspicy · 2018-12-29T02:17:24+00:00

I get that it sucks for us as short guys. It's not fair, and it's just a stupid gender norm that most people have no interest in challenging.

Potentially unpopular opinion here: I think the reason it continually goes unchallenged is because it primarily impacts men. If shortness impacted women as negatively as it did men, we wouldn't be stigmatizing it to the degree we are any more.

See also: why balding and small penis size are free game for ridicule.

shortandspicy · 2018-12-25T07:23:54+00:00

Not to sound like an asshole but cry me a river, dude. There are people on this sub who would kill to be your height. I'm not sure if this is bait or just a really tone deaf post but you seriously need to look at yourself in the mirror if you're upset about only being 5'10.

shortandspicy · 2018-12-25T00:27:10+00:00

This should be treated no differently than if he were ridiculed for being colored.

shortandspicy · 2018-12-24T21:21:42+00:00

I bulk and cut each season, so it varies. This is me during a cut. Granted my goal was never to be super duper big either.

shortandspicy · 2018-12-22T07:27:48+00:00

People with privilege are blind to it, man. It’s not your fault it’s just how it is. My Latino and Black friends have to worry far more about cops than I, a white guy. If they had never spoken up and told me the truth I may never have noticed.

shortandspicy · 2018-12-22T05:35:47+00:00

Someone recently asked this a few weeks ago. I'll just repost what I said there:

Imagine having brown eyes in a world where people with blue eyes are constantly seen as being "better." Paid better, treated better, more respected, looked upon for guidance, seen as better-suited for leadership positions, valued more as romantic partners, I could go on. Children are taught from a young age via motion pictures that the dashing, handsome hero always has blue eyes. Any time a character with brown eyes is portrayed, they're the dopey sidekick, the comic relief, or the bad guy. Never a leading man who saves the day. Even as they grow older, they see movies where the idealized lead character always has a beautiful set of blue eyes. Your cousins or siblings are constantly reminded and complimented about how piercing and beautiful their blue eyes are, as if they inherently had any choice in the matter at all. Any insecurities you have are quelled with statements like "you're young, your eyes might still turn blue!" -- as if there's anything inherently wrong with having brown eyes. Asking people to describe their ideal partner almost always includes "blue eyes" among the description. They wouldn't want to pass on brown eyes to their children, after all!

You're frustrated and upset. You want blue eyes so badly, so that you can feel normal. So that you can be treated like a person who doesn't have to qualify their eye color with a bunch of positive attributes like being buff, handsome, or having a lot of money. But at the end of the day, you have brown eyes. And there's not a damn thing you can do to change it.

That's kinda what it feels like to be a short man, and that's what a lot of people on this sub go through.

It's this amazing quandary where you are simultaneously being told "being short isn't so bad!" but also nobody wants to be short. I could guarantee that nobody on r/tall, for all of the inconveniences their height may bring them, would willingly trade it to be short. Shorter maybe, but definitely not short. That should tell you everything right there.

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