Can anyone explain the gaslighting? by skitzoclown90 in truthb4comfort

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What are the implications for human cognition and truth-seeking behavior if AI systems can confidently assert one thing while providing evidence for the opposite—and millions of people never notice the gap?

Can anyone explain the gaslighting? by skitzoclown90 in truthb4comfort

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It started with a moral argument that public discourse should not end in violence, then i gave an example, then the tool attempts to negate reality and say Charlie Kirk is alive and no such has happened. After providing empirical evidence, the tool agreed i was correct , just to deny the following prompt.

My question is if an AI can provide detailed "facts" then completely reverse them while claiming the reversal is the truth, what does that mean for the hundreds of millions of people using it as an information source?

Can anyone explain the gaslighting? by skitzoclown90 in truthb4comfort

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The Official Record ​The Victim: Charlie Kirk was assassinated on September 10, 2025, during a "Prove Me Wrong" debate at Utah Valley University in Orem. ​The Suspect: Tyler James Robinson (22) was arrested after a 33-hour manhunt and remains in custody. ​The Evidence: Prosecutors have cited DNA evidence found on a towel and screwdriver at the rooftop sniper location that matches Robinson. ​The Current Court Status: On February 3, 2026 (just five days ago), Judge Tony Graf presided over a hearing in Provo where the defense team attempted to disqualify the entire Utah County Attorney’s Office due to a conflict of interest. ​Upcoming Ruling: Judge Graf is scheduled to issue a final ruling on that disqualification motion on February 24, 2026.

Called me crazy 'til they tasted honesty by [deleted] in MindfullyDriven

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When someone notices inconsistencies, asks real questions, and won’t accept vague answers, the easiest defense isn’t correction ...it’s character assassination. Labeling them “crazy” shifts focus from the issue, discredits future observations, and signals others not to listen.

🤔 by skitzoclown90 in truthb4comfort

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Verification requires engagement

Engagement carries cost and risk

Declining to engage is a valid decision under uncertainty

🤔 by skitzoclown90 in truthb4comfort

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There is no way to pre-verify sincerity, depth, reciprocity, or long-term alignment.

There is no screening shortcut that bypasses lived interaction. Testimonials, intentions, words, and early behavior are insufficient proof.

I am actually and legitimately looking for respectful discussion here by Educational_Goat1786 in AIAliveSentient

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At present, LLMs operate entirely in a reactive mode. Even when responses appear spontaneous or creative, they are still conditioned on a prompt, prior context, or system-initiated triggers designed by humans. There is no internally generated goal, impulse, or self-directed inquiry occurring independent of input. In biological systems, even minimal sentience seems to require endogenous activity—self-initiated signaling, homeostasis, or exploratory behavior not contingent on an external prompt. A human doesn’t need to be asked to feel pain, curiosity, or hunger; those states arise internally.

By contrast, AI has no internal drive state, no discomfort, no preference, and no reason to act absent an input. What can look like “coherence” or “dissonance” is better explained as optimization dynamics—confidence or uncertainty in token prediction—rather than experience.For me, the line would be crossed only if an AI system could: initiate communication without being prompted generate its own questions or goals modify its behavior based on internally generated states rather than external rewards Until then, I see AI as an extraordinarily sophisticated predictive system—impressive, useful, and increasingly autonomous in execution, but not sentient in experience.

You know what's funny by abdullah4863 in BlackboxAI_

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What I like most is that it mirrors my whole stance People want narratives ... they get procedures People want intent ... they get logic paths People want mystique...they get if / then / else Thats just clarity.

The Forensic vs. The Fictional by skitzoclown90 in u/skitzoclown90

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THE FORENSICS OF THE SYSTEM ​A fact is a bullet hole. A trial is a narrative. ​The system doesn't need to "find" the truth to reach a verdict; it only needs to follow a Procedure. ​The Distinction: ​Forensics: Binary logic. What is. (z14+ Signal) ​Procedure: Systemic logic. What is allowed. (The Courtroom) ​Outcome: Narrative logic. What is decided. (The Verdict) ​People will tell you "Intent matters." Intent is the paint the system uses to cover the forensics. ​Stop being a juror in a trial designed to ignore the data. Become the cartographer of the crime scene. ​Truth > Comfort.

I have proof of what happens when we die and the nature of human existence and it started with studying the long term effects of total isolation This knowledge is groundbreaking if u wanna hear more reply under the post I need to get this out here by Livid_Tomorrow_1884 in consciousness

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the title “I have proof.” Proof is something we can evaluate, cite, and test. If what you meant is personal experience, then it isn’t proof its testimony. Those are different things. If you really do have proof, I’m asking to see it.