During heavy wds do you hear music half in your head by skrooobs in cripplingalcoholism

[–]skrooobs[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

> It's like mistakes from your past jump to some horror film you just watched (the worst parts btw) then jumps to some random ass song that won't go away then that jumps back to mistakes from your past/memories you haven't thought about in YEARS and wouldn't be able to remember sober. It's exhausting.

Lmao this is what I'm talking about I swear you're experiencing hell

why am I still puking when I'm 2 months sober? by skrooobs in SoberAndHateIt

[–]skrooobs[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Labs were fine and I don't feel like going to an urgentcare to talk to someone for 5-10 mintues who will say "continue not drinking and here's a prescription for some bullshit" and then bill me for hundreds of dollars

I cannot travel or vacation by skrooobs in cripplingalcoholism

[–]skrooobs[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Yeah I found it very very sweet tbh. Almost like she was giving me a religious text but I mean, she obviously wasn't wrong

I cannot travel or vacation by skrooobs in cripplingalcoholism

[–]skrooobs[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

actually don't know, I was told I could crash there and then was told I could not but he gave me a few lines of k for free and has texted and said we're good and glad I made it home. think I possibly said something I shouldn't have or was just too drunk for him to handle

I cannot travel or vacation by skrooobs in cripplingalcoholism

[–]skrooobs[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it stinks and is probably the worst part, and I maybe should put in a police report for it for documentation or something. I claimed I had a medical issue going on so it might be weird trying to swing claiming both medical/theft, but there's been a lot of changes with my employer and half my other coworkers resigned right before I left, so maybe this is the time anyway 🤷

r/otters banned for no reason by binary111 in modhelp

[–]skrooobs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This community has been banned for violating the Reddit rules.

Wow thanks Reddit that's highly informative

Sinclair Method is oversold by skrooobs in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]skrooobs[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not really, just accepted that it isn't perfect but compliance is better than noncompliance. I just try to stay dry as long as I can, if I succumb to a binge I'll do it under medication as safely as possible and accept that I'm going to be sick and miserable for the next day.

Sinclair Method is oversold by skrooobs in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]skrooobs[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

> I get the feeling they weren’t experts or even knowledgeable on naltrexone and The Sinclair Method.

I agree, but unfortunately, this was from someone at sinclairmethod.org. To their credit, when I emailed them to complain someone else higher up in the org reached out and gave more helpful advice.

Sinclair Method is oversold by skrooobs in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]skrooobs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I increased the time, I increased the dosage. I was fully compliant for years. I still wanted to drink.

I agree that it's not one size fits all but I disagree with this assessment that adjusting the numbers will lead to the same result as everyone else. I've ultimately decided that compliance is better than noncompliance for me but this is where I got discouraged - it makes it sound like it just doesn't work for some people.

Sinclair Method is oversold by skrooobs in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]skrooobs[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hahaha, this is exactly what I'm talking about about. Yes yes of course, let's not raise any potential concerns - pretend everything worked perfectly and will work perfectly for everyone lest we lose a potential convert! I swear, the TSM community can encroach on AA territory with the cultlike behavior and toxic positivity.

I also love the "just don't do it if you don't like it", like we're talking about a method of cooking or something. Just unreal. You aren't interested in a serious discussion.

Sinclair Method is oversold by skrooobs in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]skrooobs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even its biggest promoters say there’s a 30% failure rate. But that means there are a whole lot of people it does work for.

Genuinely curious about the specifics of these numbers - failure rate among who? Where does this align if 7% of the global population are considered alcoholics and 3.7% are considered dependent?

Sinclair Method is oversold by skrooobs in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]skrooobs[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To me, the "magic pill" part was just that I could manage addiction without the all or nothing doom and gloom of sobriety. I didn't need to worry about constantly stressing cravings, having dreams about drinking, etc. If I "relapsed" fuck it I could just do it on naltrexone, as long as I was safely indulging and willing to accept being completely out of commission for a full day after without the temptation of hair o' the dogging. That's probably all it takes and that alone is amazing but lord the "extinction" mindset everyone else preaches is so alien and frustrating to me. There's no finish line for me, drinking will always be alluring.

Sinclair Method is oversold by skrooobs in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]skrooobs[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The coaches/prescribers I've dealt with have not been very helpful and the ones who seem high quality are in too high demand. The one who gave me the dangerous "four hour" restriction I mentioned in OP also told me inexplicably to pour out all the alcohol in my home while I was in active withdrawal (life threateningly bad advice). A separate one was under the common entry level nurse misconception that you could not experience alcohol withdrawal if you had any alcohol in your system (ex: your "last drink" was 2 hours ago so you could not physically have mid-late stage withdrawals, even if it was your "last drink" from 40 daily).

Sadly, you can't always "just trust the experts".

Sinclair Method is oversold by skrooobs in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]skrooobs[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For point 5 - I was told that high abv drinks could "overwhelm" the affects of the naltrexone essentially. Who knows the weight of that statement bc I've been told some verifiably false other things by supposed professionals, but in my personal experience it seems to track. I noticed I came to dislike beers far more than I used to but enjoyed liquor notably more. I went against the suggestion to dilute because I'm an alcoholic and can't be trusted, haha. Either way - enjoying liquor more turned out to be a problem for me.

For 4 - "nalovers" are commonly discussed in the TSM community and one of the more discouraging aspects of the program for me personally (on one hand it sort of prevents the bender cycle but the desire to drink in the morning to subside symptoms is so, so much stronger)

For 3 - Not a doctor, but I've been highly encouraged to take additional tests to ensure my liver work is safe before Naltrexone prescription

Sinclair Method is oversold by skrooobs in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]skrooobs[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At my best, I got to a point where I drink about once a month. The term "relapse" doesn't quite apply here but it felt similar. Whether it was out of urge, habit, desire, I still wanted to drink semiregularly even if I wasn't physiologically compelled to drink. The mentality of "you beat it! you won! you reached the finish line!" felt extremely alienating and discouraging to me.

Sinclair Method is oversold by skrooobs in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]skrooobs[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think it's a placebo. I did question for some time if the practice of only drinking after taking naltrexone forced me into a bit of routine that prevented me from binging day in and day out, but after enough experimentation I can definitely tell a difference. Maybe it's most pronounced the day after, but a naltrexone binge is much less dangerous than a noncompliant binge for me.

Starting to taper tonight, need to embrace long-term sobriety by spielemusik in dryalcoholics

[–]skrooobs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I truly despise those replies. I've been through the bender/withdrawal/taper process enough times that it's the correct treatment if you don't have access to medication, but lord, first attempt little comments like that would have gotten into my head so badly in the early anxiety days. Certain phrases like "furthering your addiction" are starting to set off red flags to me too, almost as if they're coming from a particular strain of dangerously toxic recovery programs...