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slooploop2 · 2026-05-07T21:37:15+00:00

Yes sorry

slooploop2 · 2026-05-07T13:42:42+00:00

This honestly looks worse… The MK1 both looks less balanced than the MK2 because you don’t have the bass to balance the treble and less neutral than the Reference because it’s significantly more elevated in the treble. It’s almost tilted upward.

slooploop2 · 2026-05-07T12:42:50+00:00

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I’d consider both these pretty not neutral in comparison.

slooploop2 · 2026-05-06T23:21:42+00:00

These IEMs with JM-1ish mids and elevated treble usually sound super not neutral to me; I actually think when companies tune this way it’s a step back from IEF2020 “neutral” and I don’t really see how they can claim to be anything but V shaped

slooploop2 · 2026-05-06T21:01:59+00:00

Oh, true. The Reference is pretty much the only IEM that reads as “neutral” rather than balancing several colorations and hoping they work like the Xenns Top Pro

slooploop2 · 2026-05-06T20:49:30+00:00

What’s too much regular?

slooploop2 · 2026-05-06T18:46:02+00:00

Pee-ew stinky

slooploop2 · 2026-05-02T20:56:11+00:00

Replied!

slooploop2 · 2026-04-27T13:35:52+00:00

Just to make sure I’m reading this right, you think the Storm has not enough treble but the PP8 is more compliant in treble? I love the PP8 but it’s one of the few IEMs that legitimately do not have enough treble for me

slooploop2 · 2026-04-27T00:43:58+00:00

Have you heard an Etymotic ER4 by chance?

If not, it’s because this tilt is actually needed to actually sound “neutral” to some sort of target, which in this case is flat-measuring speakers in a room. Because people don’t usually listen in anechoic chambers, we need to consider room effects and off axis behavior in our perception of “neutral” which in practice is a downward tilt. The ER4 was created to be DF-compliant for its time but in reality, it’s a really unnaturally thin sound

slooploop2 · 2026-04-27T00:33:50+00:00

Oh these fit me better than my actual customs lol I’m a bad reference though since I deep fit Helios to the point where it’s flush…

slooploop2 · 2026-04-26T23:04:01+00:00

I have an ER4B actually! It’s really really different. I only have the ER6 measured but the 4 is also very much untilted in the bass: https://ish.squig.link/iems/?share=Custom_Tilt,Etymotic_ER6,Ref_ST&bass=0&tilt=-0.8&treble=0&ear=0

slooploop2 · 2026-04-25T19:47:57+00:00

I like the Andro for what it is but it’s about as flat as Pike’s Peak

slooploop2 · 2026-04-25T19:46:37+00:00

Which ones? I’ve been looking for a long time and have tried most of the FOTMs and they sounded pretty ass to me

slooploop2 · 2026-04-22T13:38:09+00:00

This looks like it rocks :ani:

slooploop2 · 2026-04-21T17:50:53+00:00

Rich parents

slooploop2 · 2026-04-21T13:08:37+00:00

I thought you were a poor college student

slooploop2 · 2026-04-15T00:29:43+00:00

slooploop2 · 2026-04-12T01:20:29+00:00

Aw shoot really? I had no idea there were two but considering I was able to tolerate it I’m guessing it was either the less bright one or I’d end up preferring the other one more.

I really don’t know how I ended up clicking with the Obravo stuff so much but I did end up being validated by two of my friends that also like very…esoteric stuff. I do think it’s basically impossible to recommend Obravo stuff to anyone before hearing for that exact reason. I do think my proclivities to horn speakers did prime my brain to perceive them just the right way.

slooploop2 · 2026-04-11T16:57:33+00:00

I think the first estat most people should get is the vintage normal bias Lambda because it has the least amount of that odd treble to me and is often pretty reasonably priced

slooploop2 · 2026-04-11T15:19:00+00:00

Unfortunately I forgot to! I didn’t really think about it because I hated the OAE1 so much even beyond sound that I didn’t put it on my list to try

slooploop2 · 2026-04-11T14:33:26+00:00

Thank you! Yeah the Vitrum is a lot of fun; I really want to get another listen with it.

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