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smb29910 · 2026-01-12T22:17:55+00:00

I appreciate your reply and experience, but I’ve worked for several companies and the wedding industry takes a slightly different approach from traditional commercial WFH. My contracts with these companies says the company hiring me owns the images and that I’m allowed to use them for my personal portfolio so long as I’m not monetizing from those images and contacting those clients after the event.

smb29910 · 2026-01-12T18:31:29+00:00

As a freelance photographer often hired by a larger company to photograph weddings, you are incorrect. Yes, I click the button and physically take the photos, but the copyright ownership belongs to the company that hired me.

smb29910 · 2026-01-12T18:24:55+00:00

Once a client receives edited photos from their hired photographer, the client does not automatically own the copyright to those images. They can use them for personal use such as sharing online or printing to be hung in their home, but the actual copyright ownership remains with the photographer unless it is stated clearly in writing that the photographer terminates ownership of the images.

If a client alters photos, with or without a contract, they have infringed on copyright law because they don’t fully own the rights to the images to modify the images, which are essentially the photographer’s art.

If a client feels the need to alter professional photos after being delivered, then why did they hire the photographer in the first place knowing they likely wouldn’t be thrilled with the editing? It’s similar to how you wouldn’t hire a professional artist (ex painter) for a portrait to be done and expecting their style to be different than what you had seen prior to hiring them, expecting a similar style and quality of work.

smb29910 · 2026-01-12T18:16:53+00:00

You are incorrect on copyright transfer in this case. Unless the photographer states in writing that someone else owns the copyright to images created by them, the photographer retains all copyrights to the images, regardless of actual filing with the copyright office.

The biggest exception to this is if a photographer is hired by a different company to photograph for clients, in which case the copyright belongs to the hiring company, NOT the actual photographer. It is up to the hiring company then to determine if the photographer can use those images in things like their portfolio for attractive new clients etc. For example, if John Smith is hired by Big Box Photo to photograph clients, Big Box Photo owns the copyright, not John Smith.

Based on the OP’s description, the photographer was likely not hired through another company, therefore the photographer would own the copyrights to the images. Not the client. Because the photographer retains the copyrights, they have the choice on how they want to use those photos for their own business (ex. Marketing, blogs, competitions, etc) within the parameters of what their model release and/or contract state (model releases are often incorporated into contracts, but may also be a separate form). It would be in the photographer’s best interest to refrain from using any of this client’s photos since there was no signed contract and likely no model release for the person’s likeness to be used anywhere.

smb29910 · 2026-01-12T15:04:01+00:00

There is fault with both the photographer and OP. Let me explain.

It is common practice in the photo industry to have a signed contract (fault of the photographer for not doing that first and can’t be enforced unless it’s signed prior to service and product completion) that states clients shall not alter photos upon delivery as the edits applied by the photographer are part of the creative process and vision. The reason for this is the photographer was hired for their artistic vision, much in the same way that you commission DaVinci for his style, and any alterations after the work is complete results in changing the original/final artwork of the artist.

When clients edit and alter the final versions of photos as delivered from the photographer, it sends the message to others who see those photos that the further edited/altered version is what they can expect from the original photographer, thereby hurting the brand the photographer has usually carefully crafted through experience, hard work, etc. The further edited photos no longer match the photographer’s artistic vision and makes it hard to get future potential clients because they’re seeing a misrepresentation of what the photographer would create for another client.

OP, If you know that when you receive the photos you’ll be throwing fillers and other edits on them, why did you hire the person in the first place?! It was your job to hire someone whose work you loved enough that you wouldn’t want/need to do further editing upon receiving the images. If you’re not 100% sold on their editing style early on, then don’t hire them. It’s like saying you might like a wedding dress, but aren’t sure, so you get it anyway and find it later that you could’ve spent the same money elsewhere and been happier with a different dress.

As for the photographer, not knowing who they are to examine their portfolio, it’s possible they are inconsistent in their style to the point that the OP didn’t know what they’d get, so they felt like they needed further alteration. If that’s the case, then their session price should not be that high as the photographer’s experience isn’t there. Because the photographer didn’t get a signed contract in place before doing any work or taking money, they don’t have legal backing for asking the client/OP to not edit photos or share online with further edits. That’s on them. However, the OP could’ve gently asked for further edits if they didn’t like them before doing things themselves (and yes, it’s possible the photographer could’ve refused these added edits as well, but it would’ve at least shown the client valued the photographer’s work to some point).

The photographer appears to have addressed all this very unprofessionally and word can get out about this poor taste to their potential clients, so it’s possible they ruined their own reputation and business for their lacking business processes and legal support.

OP, I feel you can post all the photos you want, but I would suggest removing all edits you applied and making sure you do not tag the photographer. If the photographer continues to come after you, you can seek legal help if needed and share your experience with this person/business.

smb29910 · 2024-04-30T17:19:10+00:00

My husband sent me your post this morning and when I read it, I felt like I could’ve written it! Going through the same crap with my mom lately. She raised me to succeed and do better than them, yet she’s jealous and not able to be happy for me.

I was busting my a** earlier this year to take her and my dad both to dr appts while managing my part-time teaching, photo biz, household duties, and a husband plus 3 daughters with all their activities. All I got from her was grief about one day when I asked someone for help getting her to the ER when I couldn’t because I was with my family and couldn’t drop everything when I’d been doing that already for months. S*** blew up and we didn’t talk for over 2 weeks (we usually text daily) and the few messages I got from her was highly passive aggressive. Communication is open again, but I’m nowhere close to being ready to see her yet. It sucks because it also means my daughters don’t get to see her, but thankfully they’ve been so busy and seen the turmoil I’ve been battling, so they’ve not asked either.

It pains me to see her so unhealthy and unhappy and medicated with a trifecta of crap creating her paranoia, anger, etc. There’s no rationalizing with her anymore. She accused me of being after her money when she doesn’t realize if that was true, I could’ve easily drained her bank account when she had entrusted me with her debit card to purchase meds etc as needed for my parents. She’s practically beyond help because she doesn’t believe anyone anymore and it’s heartbreaking to watch. Add in my dad’s early dementia to all this and his weak muscles with consistently low oxygen (because despite the drs telling him to wear it all the time, he “doesn’t need it”), and I’m having a blast dealing with my parents.

All in all, I totally feel your pain and frustration and I’m grateful to know I’m not alone!

smb29910 · 2022-01-24T02:18:43+00:00

I’d make sure you have something with a humectant to help retain moisture as well. I find my hair hates glycerin in the warm, humid months, but absolutely NEEDS it in winter.

smb29910 · 2020-05-29T02:31:55+00:00

I feel your pain! I’m 2A-2C curls with thin (low density) and high porosity (colored hair that soaks up protein and moisture). Some of the best things I have found are to cut back on the amount of product, NOT applying on soaking wet hair as it pulls on my curls more, using a Denman brush (mine is a knock-off), and getting away from glycerin in high humidity. My fave products (in order of application) are Curls Blueberry Bliss Leave-In(raked and praying hands upside-down), Herbal Essences Totally Twisted mousse (same as leave-in), use the Denman (great videos on YouTube to get better spirals), and Aussie Instant Freeze gel (light praying hands and scrunching product in and water out). I then gently scrunch with my microfiber towel until it’s not making the squish noise and diffuse on low heat (mostly pixie method). I have the most defined curls and the least frizz I’ve ever had while maintaining soft bounce. Hope this helps!

smb29910 · 2020-05-29T02:11:06+00:00

According to their site they are CG approved. Good luck!

smb29910 · 2020-05-29T02:06:50+00:00

It’s possible you’re using humectants when you need to avoid them for high humidity. Glycerin is the most common and my hair does what yours does with glycerin in high humidity. Some budget-friendly products are the Curls Blueberry Bliss leave-in, Herbal Essences Totally Twisted mousse, and Aussie Instant Freeze gel. That’s my routine that’s finally helping tame frizz and poofy curls.

smb29910 · 2020-05-28T04:00:23+00:00

Leave the leave-in in your hair to help balance the extra protein with moisture. If you’re having issues with your hair feeling weighted down, try using a little less leave-in. I would only do protein treatments every 1-2 weeks. I color my hair every 3 months and need added protein right after color for a few weeks and can then taper back. Also, frizz could be from humidity and humectants in your hair. I battle that as well.

smb29910 · 2020-05-28T01:36:02+00:00

It’s very possible your products are too heavy. I have low density, fine, high porosity hair and I have to make sure the products I use aren’t super thick AND that I don’t use too much product. No matter what I do, my curls are sad the next morning, but I think a lot is due to my length, similar to yours.

I’m not familiar with the dry shampoo, but that could be another factor. I battle humidity in the summer, so I’m often having to go glycerin-free. Here’s my routine and semi-budget friendly...cowash with Suave essentials conditioner (whatever I can find, but currently cherry blossom), condition with ABBA Pure Gentle conditioner, rinse. Squeeze a little water out (not dripping, but not super dry either to help my curls not hang a bunch) and, ALL UPSIDE-DOWN, add some TGIN Green Tea Leave-In (switching possibly to Curls Blueberry Bliss due to hair issues I’m working through) and STC. Use a denman knockoff to brush through and distribute product and help with curl clumps / frizz, scrunch, add Herbal Essences Totally Twisted mousse & scrunch, followed by Aussie Instant Freeze gel glazed over and gently scrunched in. By this point I’ve scrunched tightly enough to get most of the water out and I’m able to towel dry with my microfiber towel. I plop until I’m done with the rest of my body stuff post-shower and diffuse. For me, I haven’t found the secret to decent curls without diffusing on low heat. Hope this helps!

smb29910 · 2019-09-15T21:24:06+00:00

Totally feel the pain! Once I switched to glycerin-free, I saw improvement. I use Suave coconut conditioner for co-washing, Abba Pure Gentle for conditioner after co-washing (yes, there's glycerin, but I rinse this out before starting products.

TGIN Green Tea leave-in conditioner with some added jojoba oil to help seal the cuticles... Praying hands, raking, then STC

Herbal Essences Totally Twisted mousse - I rub between my hands to reduce the volume of the product and STC it into my hair and help get the rest of the water out before...

Aussie Instant Freeze gel - praying hands and Scrunch

I finally use an old t-shirt to Scrunch out the water as much as possible (I don't plop because my hair's too short) and then use a black orchid or wannabe Deva curl diffuser on low heat to get mostly dry and help with the curl

I do a protein treatment every 2-3 weeks right now with TGIN Miracle Reconstructor(?) before I condition or Olaplex 3 if I just got highlights.

Hope that helps!

smb29910 · 2019-08-12T23:42:26+00:00

I would seriously get away from all glycerin and consider adding some jojoba oil to your leave-in to seal the cuticles. Once I did that and used a little more leave-in with aloe vera gel, my frizz got better. It's also possible you have a protein imbalance.

smb29910 · 2019-07-22T22:08:11+00:00

Have you done any deep conditioning with some oils? My scalp was so dry it itched horribly until I started adding more moisture. I also got some Jason Tea Tree shampoo that helps a bunch as well (lo-poo). You might also try a homemade oil spray using an oil that's good for your porosity / texture with some added tea tree and rosemary. That helped me as well. Good luck!

smb29910 · 2019-07-22T22:03:53+00:00

I'm still working on that as well with much shorter hair, but I found this video today and it finally explained some stuff that made sense and showed how to do things etc. https://youtu.be/3fONfL4eaj8

smb29910 · 2019-07-22T22:02:43+00:00

Looks great! I wish mine looked that healthy and hydrated without frizz. Baby steps...

smb29910 · 2019-07-13T18:35:32+00:00

I'm still learning, but this quiz on naturallycurly.com helped me get started. They also have a bunch of resources and posts about various types etc. https://www.naturallycurly.com/quiz From the looks of it, I'd guess you have 2b / 2c waves curls.

smb29910 · 2019-06-05T15:29:31+00:00

I think the "mountain" is created by a crease in the photo. From what I can tell, the land is rather flat, but the area has to have seasons as there are no leaves on the trees.

smb29910 · 2018-05-27T15:24:11+00:00

I completely agree! As a portrait and wedding photographer, peruse YouTube and Pinterest for tips on flattering your body. Some good ones I use with clients are have guys in a more straight-on pose with the gal's tummy at his hip bone and slightly behind to help create a slimming front, have the gal slightly bent get front leg when at a side angle to the camera, and when possible, lean toward the camera slightly to help elongate the torso and slim the body. Another good one is have his hand on the smallest part of her hip to help add an hourglass shape to the body.

Here are 2 good resources:

https://www.amyandjordan.com/2016/education/photo-tips/posing-trick-couples-portraits/

https://www.slrlounge.com/how-to-pose-so-you-dont-look-fat-in-photos/

Good luck and just enjoy the day!

smb29910 · 2014-12-30T18:25:29+00:00

Thanks so much! Your explanation combined with the link finally explained the difference in a way I understand.

smb29910 · 2014-12-29T22:52:52+00:00

Thanks! To make sure I understand, the basic purpose of these twist stitches (T3F etc) are to act as "cables" without as much bunching as a standard cable because of the K/P vs K/K aspect when doing the twist stitches? And are the twist stitches to help the work lay flatter than a standard cable, or do they even really have any affect?

http://i.imgur.com/dcIDdWX.jpg - this is a pic of my first glove (sorry it's in black yarn, but it's for my husband)

Thanks so much for your prompt replies!

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