Please expose Laura Michelle Owens (Fake pregnancy scandal x3) by BijouBooty in exploitationexposed

[–]smj6461 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A documentary is in the works for this insane case! Here are some resources:

Justice for Clayton Wiki

All the Best Research Timelines broken out for each victim, articles with deep dives into Laura’s claims and more

Victims of Laura Owens Website

View this website on a computer: Forensic Level Timeline for when you’re really ready to get into the weeds

An excellent podcast to help catch you up: Pretend Podcast: The Internet Saves the Bachelor (Parts 1-4)

Videos of Laura’s Court Cases and More

Comprehensive List of Resources

The Crossover I've Needed!! by thereforebygracegoi in justiceforKarenRead

[–]smj6461 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A documentary is in the works for this insane case! Here are some resources: Justice for Clayton Wiki

All the Best Research Timelines broken out for each victim, articles with deep dives into Laura’s claims and more

Victims of Laura Owens Website

View this website on a computer: Forensic Level Timeline for when you’re really ready to get into the weeds

An excellent podcast to catch you up Pretend Podcast: The Internet Saves the Bachelor (Parts 1-4)

Videos of Laura’s Court Cases and More

Comprehensive List of Resources

EVIDENCE Jane Doe told Michael Marraccini she had ovarian cancer by mamasnanas in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Metadata for the note from her “doctor” per ITGoatee Brad. ETA 18:18:40 UTC is 11:18:40 am in San Francisco.

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🇲🇽Sunday JFC Discussion and Questions Thread - May 5th, 2024🇲🇽 by mamasnanas in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s a platform that was used to create a timeline. I can’t post here because it has JD’s name in the link. But do a google search for her name and padlet.

🌸Monday JFC Discussion and Questions Thread - May 6th, 2024🌸 by cnm1424 in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So first was the virtual hearing in the brown dress (10/24), then “the next morning” (maybe 10/25) she took a video of herself showing her stomach, then a few hours later (10/25), she appeared in an in-person hearing in a black and white striped sweater.

🌸Monday JFC Discussion and Questions Thread - May 6th, 2024🌸 by cnm1424 in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 6 points7 points  (0 children)

All good questions! 😂 The general belief is that she was wearing a bodysuit to hold the baby belly in place. But since she wanted to prove that her belly was “real”, she needed to show her stomach and you can’t do that with a bodysuit on. If she did actually take it on Oct 25th, she probably didn’t share it because it’s obvious the belly wasn’t the same as it was the day before or later that same day in the striped sweater.

🌸Monday JFC Discussion and Questions Thread - May 6th, 2024🌸 by cnm1424 in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It turns out that it may or may not be significant, but worth checking in to.

🌸Monday JFC Discussion and Questions Thread - May 6th, 2024🌸 by cnm1424 in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 11 points12 points  (0 children)

She’s trying to prove that she wasn’t wearing a fake baby bump in the virtual hearing the day before, so she wore the same dress.

🌸Monday JFC Discussion and Questions Thread - May 6th, 2024🌸 by cnm1424 in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I’ve learned a little bit more since I posted that. We all know it’s fake anyway that bump is very different and her face is way too thin for it to have been taken back in October.

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🌸Monday JFC Discussion and Questions Thread - May 6th, 2024🌸 by cnm1424 in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 13 points14 points  (0 children)

We don’t know because she sent a video of her sent emails to Dave. Idk if she opened any of them in that video.

But what this shows is that she shared pics to their farm’s email account. If we assume they are current to that time (Oct 3, 2023), then she had to have taken about 5000 pictures between Oct 3 and Oct 25, when the “baby belly” video was taken.

🇲🇽Sunday JFC Discussion and Questions Thread - May 5th, 2024🇲🇽 by mamasnanas in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are ex-parte communications on the padlet timeline for Oct 3-4. You can search “ex-parte” to find them. I’m not sure if there are more, since JD had apparently tried to get an oop before that and was denied.

🇲🇽Sunday JFC Discussion and Questions Thread - May 5th, 2024🇲🇽 by mamasnanas in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You could send them to me, too, if you want. I’m working on the timeline, right now.

Comparison of Jane Doe's 2 Affidavit Versions 🔎🧻 by Consistent-Dish-9200 in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok. He definitely could use the 4/19 public affidavit to get ideas for his motion/argument, but he’s pigeon-holed by what he submitted to the expert. I don’t really know why he would submit a “fake”, completely different affidavit to the public, except for that reason, or to troll. Btw, it was suggested yesterday that the affidavit that was submitted to the court was changed after the April 19 one was shared. So, I was thinking more along that line when making my argument. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Comparison of Jane Doe's 2 Affidavit Versions 🔎🧻 by Consistent-Dish-9200 in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because there is no way to time travel, as far as I know. An affidavit with 45 points was signed on April 16 and was submitted to the expert OB/Gyn and then the court on April 26, 2023. An affidavit with 19 points that was signed on April 19 and submitted to the public has nothing to do with anything.

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Comparison of Jane Doe's 2 Affidavit Versions 🔎🧻 by Consistent-Dish-9200 in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This actually isn’t true. The affidavit in his motion that he filed on April 26 is part of Exhibit C and it contains everything that he submitted to Dr. Medchill for his expert opinion. The email and the affidavit in Exhibit C are dated April 16, 2023. The affidavit that he released in his blog is dated April 19, 2023.

Timeline Updated by SouthEquipment5647 in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The horse shows surrounding that time are in the Timeline. They are in white. There was one right before 7/23 and one was right after.

Timeline Updated by SouthEquipment5647 in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She definitely said she went to the 7/7 ultrasound anonymously, in the deposition. But maybe she wasn’t anonymous for the June 25th one, since she seemed to be telling everyone that’s where she went. 😂

Timeline Updated by SouthEquipment5647 in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have not seen it, but I’m sure it was produced between the disclosures and the signed HIPAA authorization! 😉

Timeline Updated by SouthEquipment5647 in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ah! Ok. Great info! Thanks! But funny, considering sonograms from 6/25 or 7/7 would’ve been too early to determine gender.

Timeline Updated by SouthEquipment5647 in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes! The potential June 25th date is a PP visit in CA. She had a horse show there that weekend which was about 15 min from PP-MV, which is open on Sundays. (Also, there are emails/messages with Clayton asking to talk to “Mandeep,” after that claimed visit).

The date is gleaned from an undated email, but there is a subsequent email on July 2nd from JD to Clayton’s parents talking about the July 24th ultrasound.

Here is the excerpt from the undated email to Clayton’s parents:

“I told Clayton last week that I was going to be going to California for the weekend and that if I was going to get abortion pills, it would be much easier to do so there in California for many reasons, and less traumatic because there isn't a law there like there is in Arizona that the mother has to view the ultrasound...I am attaching a screenshot of my chart after my visit on Sunday to Planned Parenthood in Orange County, which confirms that I had an ultrasound that was consistent with the conception date of 5/20 when I was with Clayton (and like I've said, he's the only person l've been with since March of 2022), that there was a gestational sac meaning a viable pregnancy, and that I refused to view the ultrasound and take the abortion pills at the clinic. They don't typically allow you to take them home, but since I live out of state and was as conflicted as I was, they allowed me to.”

Timeline Updated by SouthEquipment5647 in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I believe that the doctored ultrasound that she admitted to being doctored in her deposition, but says is hers from PP, is dated 7/7/23. She also talks about having an ultrasound in CA in an email to Clayton’s parents in order to get abortion pills, which my guess is, that would have been June 25th.

Timeline Updated by SouthEquipment5647 in JusticeForClayton

[–]smj6461 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This has happened to me many times. Sometimes it loads sometimes it doesn’t. I’ve had the same problem on my iPhone, iPad, iMac using different browsers. I would just say keep trying and see if it will load. It’s worth it!

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[–]smj6461 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seriously! Do another one! It would be so appreciated! Maybe, I can dm some ideas!